20 Nov 11
Originally posted by no1marauderGeorgia's best win is against a four loss Auburn team. I guess it depends on how you define mediocre. There season has been in the same category as other two loss teams like Michigan, Michigan State, Kansas State, Wisconsin, South Carolina (who beat them head to head).
That's utter guesswork on your part. The fact remains that they won their division and will play in the SEC Championship Game. Auburn was ranked #20 in the nation and had a win over South Carolina when they rolled into Athens and suffered a 45-7 beat down.
If they win that, will the "experts" here still say the Bulldogs are "mediocre"?
20 Nov 11
Originally posted by quackquackI never heard "mediocre" defined as a Top 15 team before. I never heard of a "middle of the pack" team reaching the SEC Championship Game.
Georgia's best win is against a four loss Auburn team. I guess it depends on how you define mediocre. There season has been in the same category as other two loss teams like Michigan, Michigan State, Kansas State, Wisconsin, South Carolina (who beat them head to head).
Auburn's 4 losses were to the #1, #6, #7 teams in last week's BCS rankings and to Georgia. They beat South Carolina. I wouldn't count them out in their game against Alabama next week at home where they haven't lost in two years.
20 Nov 11
Originally posted by no1marauderI'll take Bama in the game if you want to wager..... just saying.
I never heard "mediocre" defined as a Top 15 team before. I never heard of a "middle of the pack" team reaching the SEC Championship Game.
Auburn's 4 losses were to the #1, #6, #7 teams in last week's BCS rankings and to Georgia. They beat South Carolina. I wouldn't count them out in their game against Alabama next week at home where they haven't lost in two years.
20 Nov 11
Originally posted by shortcircuitWould you have taken Oklahoma State against Iowa State? Or Oregon against USC? Or Oklahoma against Baylor? Etc. etc. etc.
I'll take Bama in the game if you want to wager..... just saying.
After this weekend, anybody who is confident about their ability to predict what is going to happen in college football in the weeks ahead is delusional.
20 Nov 11
Originally posted by no1marauderI have no problem with #15 for their ranking. I teams I think they are equivalent are right around there.
I never heard "mediocre" defined as a Top 15 team before. I never heard of a "middle of the pack" team reaching the SEC Championship Game.
Auburn's 4 losses were to the #1, #6, #7 teams in last week's BCS rankings and to Georgia. They beat South Carolina. I wouldn't count them out in their game against Alabama next week at home where they haven't lost in two years.
20 Nov 11
Originally posted by no1marauderI will repeat myself, at the risk of being crude...
Would you have taken Oklahoma State against Iowa State? Or Oregon against USC? Or Oklahoma against Baylor? Etc. etc. etc.
After this weekend, anybody who is confident about their ability to predict what is going to happen in college football in the weeks ahead is delusional.
I'll take Alabama if you'll wager dude!!
21 Nov 11
The oldest of rivalries never die.. those in the South have been going on since the 19th Century.
The sport books in Vegas only follow who's betting for whom.. The points go up and down accordingly until game time. Is that delusional? Or is the consensus of many people more crazy than one's delusions?
21 Nov 11
Originally posted by no1marauderYou never mentioned a lunatic spread. You specifically said they could BEAT them.
Yes, bookmakers in Vegas are irrational lunatics.
Guess you don't want to wager after all though you were willing to beat your chest about it.
You don't need a spread for an outright win. You are a lawyer and you know better than
to mince your words, although you are trying to manipulate them after the fact, as all
lawyers like to do.
My response to your original offer still stands. If you want to wager heads up for the
win, I will oblige you. If you back off your statement and want the crutch of the spread,
then I decline, because that spread is too large for a grudge game.
Footnote: Las Vegas oddsmakers do not set the line based on what they believe the score will be.
They set the line based on attempting to split the betting down the middle.
This is why the line moves from the start to the final. I am sure you know this, but if
not, now you do.
21 Nov 11
Originally posted by shortcircuitHere's my exact words:
You never mentioned a lunatic spread. You specifically said they could BEAT them.
You don't need a spread for an outright win. You are a lawyer and you know better than
to mince your words, although you are trying to manipulate them after the fact, as all
lawyers like to do.
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not, now you do.
I wouldn't count them [Auburn] out in their game against Alabama next week at home where they haven't lost in two years.
That's not a prediction of an Auburn win. It's a statement reflecting that I think Auburn is a pretty good team and has a chance to win against Bama. Not a great chance, but A chance. But if you want me to put my hard earned shekels down when one team is going to be a heavy underdog, I'll expect to get the points. In no way is that "backing down from my statement"; my statement did not express a belief that the Tigers would probably win.
I'm perfectly aware of the reason a particular spread is chosen and how it moves with the action. The Vegas books are expressing a belief that even with a 21 1/2 point spread that half the action will go on Auburn and half on Alabama. Expecting me to wager straight up when they these experts have assessed the market in that manner is insane.
21 Nov 11
Originally posted by no1marauderALL teams have "A" chance to beat "any" team on "any" given day.
Here's my exact words:
I wouldn't count them [Auburn] out in their game against Alabama next week at home where they haven't lost in two years.
That's not a prediction of an Auburn win. It's a statement reflecting that I think Auburn is a pretty good team and has a chance to win against Bama. Not a great chance, but A c ...[text shortened]... straight up when they these experts have assessed the market in that manner is insane.
So, you can say that about any game.
21 Nov 11
Originally posted by shortcircuitDon't nitpick. If you want to replace "A" with "A better chance than most people think" go ahead.
ALL teams have "A" chance to beat "any" team on "any" given day.
So, you can say that about any game.
I'll get you some slack and just take the 21 points and pass on the extra half if you have the nerve.
21 Nov 11
Originally posted by no1marauderYou, of all people, know my feelings on betting the spreads in grudge games and bowls.
Don't nitpick. If you want to replace "A" with "A better chance than most people think" go ahead.
I'll get you some slack and just take the 21 points and pass on the extra half if you have the nerve.
I always bet the dogs, and I win more than I lose. So, thank you for the generous offer,
but I will pass. I believe the game will be much closer than 21 points, but I believe that
Alabama will win it.
And please, don't tell me my mother wears army boots.