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Originally posted by darvlayI am almost tempted to duke it out with marauder about the "haves" and "have nots" in baseball once again. For example, the Phillies spend far more than the Reds, and it shows!! However, I just can't bring myself to do it. If he really cares about the Reds as he says he does, I say he is suffering enough as it is. I just wonder if he can hang with them for another 10 years of loosing/embarrasing baseball? God knows I have and for that reason alone should be allowed interance into heaven as a martyre.
The Reds looked fantastic last night. 22-1 loss. Very embarrassing.
My favorite year was the year Danny Graves was always thrown in the game as the closer no matter the situation even though he lost every game or nearly lost every game as a result. It got so bad, the fans began to boo him every time he took the field. OF course, this went on for about half a year until Danny simply could not take it any more and flipped the fans the bird. Sadly, it was his last game and, of course, he was so horrid it was his last game in the majors. Inexplicably, however, I think the Mets picked him up after that but that was very short lived. Those poor Mets. They remind me alot of the Reds only with a much bigger pay role.
08 Jul 09
Hey, the Reds beat the Phillies last night!! I now feel bad about ragging on my team. As a result, I have turned over a new leaf!! No more negativity when it comes to the Reds. To start off with, I will predict a good night for the Reds today, or at least, I predict Janish at least pitch a scoreless 8th. 😛
12 Jul 09
I think what we are witnessing now is the implosion of the team. I don' think they will get above .500 again this year. I think the beginning can be traced to Prince Alberts grande slam to beat the Reds in the 8th. They could not even last till the All-Star break. :'(
So there you go, no hitting, little defense, and now the pitching has gone to pot. At times it seems like the only good about this team is Votto.
24 Jul 09
This is what happens when you jump on the bandwagon of a team that just wasn't very good to start with. Spread the dirt out a little more evenly please. Make the cemetary look nice for all who come to visit.
Take a look at the club from Houston. They looked like hell, their roster is in dissarray, and they swept the first place Cardinals. Mets are up next.
24 Jul 09
Originally posted by shortcircuitCorrection, this is what happens to you when you jump on the nad wagon of a team that spends less that $100 million a year on their team. ALL the first place teams are spending $100 million or more except the Cards who are around $98 million. The Dreds only spend $70 milllion.
This is what happens when you jump on the bandwagon of a team that just wasn't very good to start with. Spread the dirt out a little more evenly please. Make the cemetary look nice for all who come to visit.
Take a look at the club from Houston. They looked like hell, their roster is in dissarray, and they swept the first place Cardinals. Mets are up next.
Its just a shame that this is what baseball has come to. In fact, I can hardly wait to see if the Red Sox or the Yankees will make it to the world seiries again this year. The suspense is more than I can bear!!
In short, baseball is dead.
25 Jul 09
Originally posted by whodeyTell that to the Rays last year who spent 43.8 Million in team salary and made it to World Series
Correction, this is what happens to you when you jump on the nad wagon of a team that spends less that $100 million a year on their team. ALL the first place teams are spending $100 million or more except the Cards who are around $98 million. The Dreds only spend $70 milllion.
Its just a shame that this is what baseball has come to. In fact, I can hardl ...[text shortened]... seiries again this year. The suspense is more than I can bear!!
In short, baseball is dead.
The Twins and the Rockies both had salaries lower than the Reds last year and were playoff teams.
The Florida Marlins won it in 2003 with a pathetic payroll.
Also, the Yankees spend more than any other team in baseball and have for the last 10 years at least. How many times did they win the World Series??
It ain't how much you spend, it is how wisely you spend it, and how lucky you are. Honestly, the Reds may be good next year, or the year after, but they have a lot of growing to do.
I didn't hear you crowing about the cheap salary at the beginning of the year either.
25 Jul 09
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Originally posted by shortcircuitI've been crowing about this for a very long time. In fact, I think Marauder and I got into over this issue a year ago. Of course, he took your side of the debate (surprise, surprise). No doubt, he abandon the Reds and went back to his Yankees. As for the Yankees, they missed the play offs last year for the first time in how many years? Get a brain man!!
Tell that to the Rays last year who spent 43.8 Million in team salary and made it to World Series
The Twins and the Rockies both had salaries lower than the Reds last year and were playoff teams.
The Florida Marlins won it in 2003 with a pathetic payroll.
Also, the Yankees spend more than any other team in baseball and have for the last 10 year do.
I didn't hear you crowing about the cheap salary at the beginning of the year either.
Don't you find it pitiful that you can't come up with any more examples of poor ball clubs having a good year? In addition, the Marlins are the only team I know to have won it all on a pathetic pay roll. So can you name any others? If not then why not button it!! 😠The fact of the matter is, you generally get what you pay for. Of course, you don't always, but you usually do. Nuff said.
27 Jul 09
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Originally posted by shortcircuitIt is not about how recent a low payroll team has gone to a world series, it is about the consistancy of such occurances. In fact, the planets align every so often as well but you should not plan on it very many times in your life time.
Tampa had the second lowest payroll in MLB last year and made it to the World Series. Is that recent enough for you?
The Yankees who have by far the largest payroll in MLB the last 10 years have not won the series in that time.
The fact that the Yankees have not won a world series in 10 years is of no consequence to what I am saying. However, the fact that they have gone to the playoffs for about 80 years straight except for last year is of consequence. Of course, I am exagerating here but I'm sure you see what I am saying. You can buy a play off birth for the most part but when it gets to the post season things change a bit. For example, the Yankees played my Reds last year in New York and won 2 of 3 games. However, if you played them over a course of a year the more games they would have played the less games the Reds would have won. It is like going to Vegas and winning a few hands at poker. Sure you can beat the odds initially but the more times you play the more likely you will come up a loser as the odds catch up to you. That is because the odds are against you as they are my Reds. If not, how in the heck do they stay in business?
I will conceed that the success of the Florida teams is somewhat mysterious. Perhaps it is the nice whether? You know, people who sacrifice money for a better living arangement. I know a few people like that. Despite this possbility, don't look for them to do that again for a very long time!!
27 Jul 09
It really seems that you are more of a "cry-about large market teams" fan than a Reds fan. Baseball allows teams to spend any amount of money they desire. If your team just pockets luxury tax money and (1) will not spend its owns money and (2) will not take advantage of the fact that your team gets great draft picks each year to build a young talented team then you get what you deserve.
27 Jul 09
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Originally posted by quackquackVery true, its just that I am sad for the fans of owner dead beats who have no intention of trying to compete for whatever reason. It is the fans I am concerned about as well as the health of the sport across the country. As it stands now, the small market fans will loose interest. If they do the sport will die off significantly.
It really seems that you are more of a "cry-about large market teams" fan than a Reds fan. Baseball allows teams to spend any amount of money they desire. If your team just pockets luxury tax money and (1) will not spend its owns money and (2) will not take advantage of the fact that your team gets great draft picks each year to build a young talented team then you get what you deserve.
I think what baseball could do is restructure the divisions based upon salary. That way teams like my Reds would have a shot at going to the play offs. Then once in the play offs, who knows? After all, it would be like playing only a few hands of poker and winning in Vegas. It can be done!!!
27 Jul 09
The Reds already are in the Central. Would you rather be in the East with Mets and the Phillies? the NL West with the Dodgers? the AL East with the Yankees and the Red Sox? I guess you could form a division with the Reds, Pirates, Royals and Nationals. Then we could put in one good spall market team like the Marlins or the Rays and let them win every year.
27 Jul 09
Originally posted by quackquackYes, the Reds, Pirates, Royals and Nationals would be a much better set up. As it stands now, the Cardinals, Astros, and Cubs dominate the division as their pay rolls reflect. They spend far more than the perpetual bottom dwellers of the division. Or, God forbid, they would impose a salary cap. No doubt, those who oppose it all root for eilte teams like the Red Sox and company. After all, why spoil a good thing when you can pretty much buy a play off birth every year.
The Reds already are in the Central. Would you rather be in the East with Mets and the Phillies? the NL West with the Dodgers? the AL East with the Yankees and the Red Sox? I guess you could form a division with the Reds, Pirates, Royals and Nationals. Then we could put in one good spall market team like the Marlins or the Rays and let them win every year.
27 Jul 09
Originally posted by whodeyC'mon man, everyone wants to be a division with the Pirates, Royals and Nationals. If you feel your team belongs there, it is because it is incompetent.
Yes, the Reds, Pirates, Royals and Nationals would be a much better set up. As it stands now, the Cardinals, Astros, and Cubs dominate the division as their pay rolls reflect. They spend far more than the perpetual bottom dwellers of the division. Or, God forbid, they would impose a salary cap. No doubt, those who oppose it all root for eilte teams like t ...[text shortened]... ny. After all, why spoil a good thing when you can pretty much buy a play off birth every year.
A salary cap is idiotic. You see in the NBA how only good teams get big named players and the rest of the teams just want to get rid of all their players so one day they can try to get a superstar. Furthermore, teams in states with less taxes (Texas) have three good teams (Houston, San Antonio and Dallas). It isn't a coincidence.
I hope baseball never goes in that direction. Each year a different team wins the World Series. There is tremendous competitive balance. If your team isn't cometiting at all in this decade perhaps contraction is the answer.