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AverageJoe1
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@wildgrass said
They are rich because the military receives a blank check from taxpayers.
I don't argue that, but your representatives ( you had more than we did for a few years in congress) have made all these decisions about spending money on docks and toilet seats, who are you writing all these posts to?? Not your fellow forum members, I hope.
The blank checks of which you speak are NOT from taxpayers,....taxpayers just put money in the treasury. THEN< the representatives give the money (blank check) to the military.
I am always here to clarify the issues which y'all find confusing.
Again, the taxpayers do not give the check, your reps give the check.
Write to them, no sense writing it here. We already know it.

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@AverageJoe1 said
I don't argue that, but your representatives ( you had more than we did for a few years in congress) have made all these decisions about spending money on docks and toilet seats, who are you writing all these posts to?? Not your fellow forum members, I hope.
The blank checks of which you speak are NOT from taxpayers,....taxpayers just put money in the treasury. THEN ...[text shortened]... e check, your reps give the check.
Write to them, no sense writing it here. We already know it.
Government contracting is the top profession in the richest counties in the country. 46% of households in Loundon county are making more than $150,000 per year from the government. These are handouts. Why don't you care?

Instead you cimplain about a one time handout for much less that lifts the poors out of poverty. Gross.

Wajoma
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@wildgrass said
You're finally catching on. The whole thread is ridiculous.
Spruce, Average Joe and myself are making reasonable points, having a reasonable discussion.

wildgrass blurted:

"A libertarian would say neither. That's not you."

Can you quote me saying it should be one, the other, or both? If not would you like to retract, I won't hold my breath, people caught out so blatantly around here just close their eyes and block their ears, in other words they lie to themselves.

AverageJoe1
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@wildgrass said
Government contracting is the top profession in the richest counties in the country. 46% of households in Loundon county are making more than $150,000 per year from the government. These are handouts. Why don't you care?

Instead you cimplain about a one time handout for much less that lifts the poors out of poverty. Gross.
You feign no knowledge, of a county next door to DC, home of thousands of rich companies. AOL, technology, data centers, ....etc...the rich are attracted there because they can get a McMansion with land and ease of travel to their work. It would not be a comfortable place for many reasons for a non-rich person. So, Like I say, the rich live there, and you libs seem to have a hell of a lot to say about it. They can live anywhere. YOU can live anywhere. You just are envious of the rich and will not let it go.
So what do you want to do? Put up or shut up. Do you want Loudon County to restrict the amount of rich people. that can live and work there?????

Really,,,,,how do you want to effect some change of life, change of he USA, change of Loudon county, to cause no more rich people to live there? If you were a contractor and could make real money there, you would move there and live and make money. Money which you could use to pay off the tuition loans of losers.
And the wheel just rolls along....y'all say so much, but really, you do not say anything, except anger towards people who are successful. You need to look at your own selves and see what you espouse. You poison the minds of people like Suzianne, now she does not like rich people and does not know why she does not like rich people.
Don't hate the rich people, hate the representatives who are wasting our money. I hate them too. For misusing our tax money. I hear that they want to pay off contractual valid tuition loans. I know, I did not believe it either.

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@Wajoma said
Spruce, Average Joe and myself are making reasonable points, having a reasonable discussion.

wildgrass blurted:

"A libertarian would say neither. That's not you."

Can you quote me saying it should be one, the other, or both? If not would you like to retract, I won't hold my breath, people caught out so blatantly around here just close their eyes and block their ears, in other words they lie to themselves.
Dude read the thread I already addressed this. Your nonplussed attitude toward real excessive spending in government is not a good look for a libertarian.

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@AverageJoe1 said
See above. Finally!!!! Someone (Spruce) who will tell us, explain to us, justify to us, source for us, what he and his government and liberal friends mean when the say................"Some provision must be made to ensure everyone gets a slice. House"

What would be the plan, the process? This sounds like nirvanna for Shav, and for Kamala. I hope he does not just drift away, because it would render his post to be ,,,,,well, nothing.
You expect me to do a lot of heavy lifting around here - identify the key problems AND solve them!?

No worries. Spruce's strength is unmatched.

"Then [you] will see how far I am strongest of all the [debaters]. Come, you ..., make this endeavor, that you all may learn this. Let down out of the sky a cord of gold; lay hold of it all you who are [posters] and all who are [postesses?], yet not even so can you drag down [Spruce] from the sky to the ground, not [Spruce] the high lord of counsel, though you try until you grow weary. Yet whenever I might strongly be minded to pull you, I could drag you up, earth and all and sea and all with you, then fetch the golden rope about the horn of Olympos and make it fast, so that all once more should dangle in mid air. So much stronger am I than the [debaters]..."

[I have ALWAYS wanted to use that quote! Thanks, AvJoe!]

Now, on to business.

- Remove ALL zoning restrictions that prevent new houses from being built. Allow ADU's, granny flats, etc. in every locale nationwide.
- Get rid of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
- Simplify the building permitting process to a single form.
- Place a progressive property tax on any individual or corporation that owns more than (let's say) 2 single-family or multi-family occupancy homes. The progressive property tax will increase EXPONENTIALLY with the 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc. single family home, duplex, or apartment building.
- Make property tax based on square footage of land NOT on condition of building
- Rescind all commercial property depreciation tax breaks
- TRIPLE property tax values for any property that is unoccupied for more than 6 months out of the year.

MORTAL, YIELD TO THE MIGHT OF SPRUCE! MWUHHAHAHAHAHA!

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@AverageJoe1 said
You feign no knowledge, of a county next door to DC, home of thousands of rich companies. AOL, technology, data centers, ....etc...the rich are attracted there because they can get a McMansion with land and ease of travel to their work. It would not be a comfortable place for many reasons for a non-rich person. So, Like I say, the rich live there, and you libs seem to h ...[text shortened]... ear that they want to pay off contractual valid tuition loans. I know, I did not believe it either.
Really,,,,,how do you want to effect some change of life, change of he USA, change of Loudon county, to cause no more rich people to live there?

They're only rich because folks like you keep asking politicians to ratchet up defense spending. Cut the Pentagon budget in half, that's the solution.

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@spruce112358 said
You expect me to do a lot of heavy lifting around here - identify the key problems AND solve them!?

No worries. Spruce's strength is unmatched.

"Then [you] will see how far I am strongest of all the [debaters]. Come, you ..., make this endeavor, that you all may learn this. Let down out of the sky a cord of gold; lay hold of it all you who are [posters] and all who ...[text shortened]... ied for more than 6 months out of the year.

MORTAL, YIELD TO THE MIGHT OF SPRUCE! MWUHHAHAHAHAHA!
Hitler, welcome back. Dictating suits you. Freedom is overrated. Regulations are the key to success. I don't know success for what or for whom, but certainly not the self-reliant independent citizen.
President Sonhouse. And you would have just started!!! I note that WGrass does not like people being rich and successful either.
I feel like I am alwasy searching what you are upset about. I note that you do not like govt wasting money (Have you seen Biden wste!?!?) , I do not either. So go after the legislators. Meanwhile, if I find out that Loudon county could be a place for my contracting company, so I can make a lot of money, I am going there. You cannot fault that.
Seems you are mad at contractors, when your ire should be directed at the legislators.

Wajoma
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@wildgrass said
Dude read the thread I already addressed this. Your nonplussed attitude toward real excessive spending in government is not a good look for a libertarian.
"A libertarian would say neither. That's not you."

Can you quote me saying it should be one, the other, or both? If not would you like to retract, I won't hold my breath, people caught out so blatantly around here just close their eyes and block their ears, in other words they lie to themselves.

Can you provide the quote, I note a roll back, in that previously it was, you're not a libertarian, to, you're not a good looking libertarian,. There have been few posts of substance most being dodges by you, so it can't be hard for you to provide a verbatim quote where I said the money should be spent on one, the other or both. TIA

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@Wajoma said
"A libertarian would say neither. That's not you."

Can you quote me saying it should be one, the other, or both? If not would you like to retract, I won't hold my breath, people caught out so blatantly around here just close their eyes and block their ears, in other words they lie to themselves.

Can you provide the quote, I note a roll back, in that previously it was, yo ...[text shortened]... ou to provide a verbatim quote where I said the money should be spent on one, the other or both. TIA
You can go back and check page 4 it was addressed.

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@Wajoma
Can you tell me what the libertarian policy would be about government money? Do libertarians want ZERO money given to government and if so how we would have stuff like fire departments or police or help for the poor?

Wajoma
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@wildgrass said
You can go back and check page 4 it was addressed.
There are 15 posts per page, I'm not your monkey, you're my dancing monkey, you're the one making the accusation, you're the one providing the proof in the form of a verbatim quote of my-good-self supposedly saying the money should be spent on one, the other or both.

Now start dancing monkey boy, you put yourself in this position.

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@Wajoma said
There are 15 posts per page, I'm not your monkey, you're my dancing monkey, you're the one making the accusation, you're the one providing the proof in the form of a verbatim quote of my-good-self supposedly saying the money should be spent on one, the other or both.

Now start dancing monkey boy, you put yourself in this position.
Libertarians don't defend government spending.

Wajoma
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@wildgrass said
Libertarians don't defend government spending.
Provide a quote of me defending goobermint spending, it's only the 6th time I've asked which makes 5 times you've slithered like a slug,

Go ahead make it 6, but be warned, you do it too much and that is what you'll be.

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@Wajoma said
Provide a quote of me defending goobermint spending, it's only the 6th time I've asked which makes 5 times you've slithered like a slug,

Go ahead make it 6, but be warned, you do it too much and that is what you'll be.
Fock off ya weasly little koala raping gimp boy.

If you need government spending explained to you, you should finish focking primary school.

Ya retarded moron.

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