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@mott-the-hoople said
so you are a supporter of muslim beheading and child rape?
No. I’m actually opposed to the oppression of woman, the raping of children, the death penalty and the Taliban specifically.

In fact, I’m generally quite opposed to Islam. As I am opposed to any fundamentalist religious beliefs (that the word written in their sarcred texts is the absolute truth).
So, yeah, just so you know, I see little difference between various Islamic schools, Jewish schools or Calvinistic Christianity.

Just to make sure you comprehend where I’m coming from.

But not all moslims are the same. And that is something you have to comprehend, if you wish to judge the situation realistically.

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@shavixmir said
No. I’m actually opposed to the oppression of woman, the raping of children, the death penalty and the Taliban specifically.

In fact, I’m generally quite opposed to Islam. As I am opposed to any fundamentalist religious beliefs (that the word written in their sarcred texts is the absolute truth).
So, yeah, just so you know, I see little difference between various Islami ...[text shortened]... ame. And that is something you have to comprehend, if you wish to judge the situation realistically.
Your postings reveal that you are lying right now. Blow smoke up someone elses a ss...it isnt flying here.

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@Mott-The-Hoople
He just told you what he thinks of religion in general and I fully agree.
I have ALWAYS said I want freedom FROM religion, not freedom OF religion.
Organized religions are ALWAYS EVIL at the top. It would be interesting to have someone count how many people died from religious warfare over the ages.
MANY millions for absolute sure.
I guess you figure that is a fine population control measure but I see it as evil in action no matter WHAT asssinine religion it is.

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@sonhouse said
@Mott-The-Hoople
He just told you what he thinks of religion in general and I fully agree.
I have ALWAYS said I want freedom FROM religion, not freedom OF religion.
Organized religions are ALWAYS EVIL at the top. It would be interesting to have someone count how many people died from religious warfare over the ages.
MANY millions for absolute sure.
I guess you figure th ...[text shortened]... e population control measure but I see it as evil in action no matter WHAT asssinine religion it is.
I didnt ask him what he thought about religion.


there is only one (ideology) that is lopping off heads.

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Really? How do you know that? You just haven't heard about OTHER religions almost as bad as that cursed Islam. So how many heads got lopped off by JESUS FREAKS a thousand years ago and such.

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@sonhouse said
@Mott-The-Hoople
Really? How do you know that? You just haven't heard about OTHER religions almost as bad as that cursed Islam. So how many heads got lopped off by JESUS FREAKS a thousand years ago and such.
"So how many heads got lopped off by JESUS FREAKS a thousand years ago and such."

Are you asking me? Why would you ask me a fictional question?

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@sonhouse said
@Mott-The-Hoople
He just told you what he thinks of religion in general and I fully agree.
I have ALWAYS said I want freedom FROM religion, not freedom OF religion.
Organized religions are ALWAYS EVIL at the top. It would be interesting to have someone count how many people died from religious warfare over the ages.
MANY millions for absolute sure.
I guess you figure th ...[text shortened]... e population control measure but I see it as evil in action no matter WHAT asssinine religion it is.
This is just another form of Islamic apologetics. The topic is Sharia Islam, or Taliban or Islamic extremism etc. The topic is is not religion, or Christianity or Judaism. Try to focus instead of rambling on about your favorite topic.

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@rajk999 said
This is just another form of Islamic apologetics. The topic is Sharia Islam, or Taliban or Islamic extremism etc. The topic is is not religion, or Christianity or Judaism. Try to focus instead of rambling on about your favorite topic.
The topic is Afghanistan.
And drifted into Islam.
Which will naturally bring Christianity into play.
Your arguments that one is not as bad as the other will not dispel the belief amongst many that religion is obsolete.

But hey. Let's get back to Afghanistan.

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@shavixmir said
No. I’m actually opposed to the oppression of woman, the raping of children, the death penalty and the Taliban specifically.

In fact, I’m generally quite opposed to Islam. As I am opposed to any fundamentalist religious beliefs (that the word written in their sarcred texts is the absolute truth).
So, yeah, just so you know, I see little difference between various Islami ...[text shortened]... ame. And that is something you have to comprehend, if you wish to judge the situation realistically.
Ok, what about non-Calvinistic Christianity?

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@suzianne said
Ok, what about non-Calvinistic Christianity?
I’m not really up on the myriad of Christian sects but I’m guessing them child raping catholic priest’s were not Calvinist’s 🤞
People are scum religious people are scum that believe in Gods..
Afghanistan is a patchwork of warring tribes which is why it is always easy to invade but impossible to subdue or govern.

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@mchill said
" Any way you cut it, we are headed for a messy outcome"

This headline from the Mar 17th edition of USA today is spot on. It's "rock or a hard place" time. America can either continue to pour massive amounts of money down this 20 year black hole, or insist the Afghan army, (trained and equipped by the USA for 2 decades) stand on it's own 2 feet and fight the Taliban. Joe p ...[text shortened]... th/news/politics/2021/03/17/us-troop-withdrawal-afghanistan-trumps-deadline-weighs-biden/4667248001/
Trump made a deal with the Taliban and Biden appears to have stuck to that deal.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51692546

Did the Taliban renege on the deal?

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@mghrn55 said
The topic is Afghanistan.
And drifted into Islam.
Which will naturally bring Christianity into play.
Your arguments that one is not as bad as the other will not dispel the belief amongst many that religion is obsolete.

But hey. Let's get back to Afghanistan.
Drifting from Afghanistan into a topic with no connection at all, like Christianity is for people who seek to justify Islamic fundamentalisms by bringing up Christian fundamentalism. Its an indication of a failed argument.

When the topic is Christian atrocities and fundamentalism I dont ever see Christian apologetics claiming that Islam does the same thing therefore its ok... never.

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@metal-brain said
Trump made a deal with the Taliban and Biden appears to have stuck to that deal.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51692546

Did the Taliban renege on the deal?
no, biden did

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@kevcvs57 said
I’m not really up on the myriad of Christian sects but I’m guessing them child raping catholic priest’s were not Calvinist’s 🤞
People are scum religious people are scum that believe in Gods..
Afghanistan is a patchwork of warring tribes which is why it is always easy to invade but impossible to subdue or govern.
I knew I should have added a smiley face emoji.

I was actually poking some fun at him.

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@suzianne said
I knew I should have added a smiley face emoji.

I was actually poking some fun at him.
I know, me too 😊
Except for the Afghanistan bit.

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