@no1marauder saidI would rather have seen UN peace keepers taking over in Afghanistan.
So you want to re-occupy Afghanistan?
Or would you simply prefer to kill everyone there?
But thank goodness no one was getting killed or used as "sex slaves" during the war.
So yes, US led reoccupation with long term UN peace keepers keeping the Taliban thugs in line. Seems to me there is no better use for UN peace keepers.
You prefer seeing the Taliban in charge doing what they do.
@eladar saidSo an indefinite, never ending occupation. The chances of the UN Security Council authorizing a "peace keeping" force to bail out the US in Afghanistan is zero.
I would rather have seen UN peace keepers taking over in Afghanistan.
So yes, US led preoccupation with long term UN peace keepers keeping the Taliban thugs in line. Seems to me there is no better US for UN peace kerpers.
So you want the US to rush troops back in. No thanks.
To your edit: The US can't control everything that happens in the world. IF the Taliban are so awful, the People in Afghanistan should have fought them - the Afghan Army was bigger, far better equipped and had an air force. Yet, they chose not to fight and local leaders cut deals with the Taliban to surrender cities and provinces. This article is enlightening: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/08/16/afghanistan-history-taliban-collapse-504977
Your "solution" is the same one four Presidents tried for 20 fruitless, bloody years. Enough is enough.
@no1marauder saidYes, an indefinite long term use of international force to keep thugs in line. When they realize they cannot simply wait out the force they will be forced to make changes.
So an indefinite, never ending occupation. The chances of the UN Security Council authorizing a "peace keeping" force to bail out the US in Afghanistan is zero.
So you want the US to rush troops back in. No thanks.
It is either that or wipe out all Taliban territories. We make them death zones. Better to kill Talibsn and their kin than allow Taliban to have free dominion. Best is a long term peace keeper mission.
But you prefer to see young girls raped and people killed by the Taliban. Yours is the Biden position.
@eladar saidGFY, you bloodthirsty nut.
Yes, an indefinite long term use of international force to keep thugs in line. When they realize they cannot simply wait out the force they will be forced to make changes.
It is either that or wipe out all Taliban territories. We make them death zones. Better to kill Talibsn and their kin than allow Taliban to have free dominion. Best is a long term peace keeper mission.
...[text shortened]... t you prefer to see young girls raped and people killed by the Taliban. Yours is the Biden position.
Now you want to kill millions of Afghans for their own good apparently. "Taliban territories" is now the entire country.
It's touching to see you're soooooooooooooooo concerned for the People of Afghanistan that you want to kill them.
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@eladar saidThat's what the UN is for.
Yes, an indefinite long term use of international force to keep thugs in line. When they realize they cannot simply wait out the force they will be forced to make changes.
It is either that or wipe out all Taliban territories. We make them death zones. Better to kill Talibsn and their kin than allow Taliban to have free dominion. Best is a long term peace keeper mission.
...[text shortened]... t you prefer to see young girls raped and people killed by the Taliban. Yours is the Biden position.
@wildgrass saidActually it isn't; the UN was never intended to intervene in civil wars:
That's what the UN is for.
"7. Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members to submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter; but this principle shall not prejudice the application of enforcement measures under Chapter VII.” Article 2 sec. 7 UN Charter
17 Aug 21
@eladar saidIf you had any understanding of the four law schools of Sunni Islam, then you’d know why your statement is too absurd to even debate.
@no1marauder
So you agree that Islam is not a religion of peace?
So, look into: Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i, Hanbali.
Focus on the Hanafi (dominant in Afghanistan) and the Hanbali (Islamic State, Al Qaeda) schools.
The Taliban are Hanafi, but very strict in their interpretations and under extreme influence of wahhabism (Hanbali).
17 Aug 21
@earl-of-trumps saidI don't agree with Earl very often, but he got this one right. 🙂
The solution (for me) is simple. GET OUT.
The Afghan military had many advantages with all the military aid we gave them. They don't want to fight.
Nor do the people.
17 Aug 21
@no1marauder saidIt is the 'calm' of people too terrified to venture outdoors.
The BBC is reporting that Kabul itself is "quiet and calm". https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58232815
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@shavixmir saidsix of one, half dozen of the other.
If you had any understanding of the four law schools of Sunni Islam, then you’d know why your statement is too absurd to even debate.
So, look into: Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i, Hanbali.
Focus on the Hanafi (dominant in Afghanistan) and the Hanbali (Islamic State, Al Qaeda) schools.
The Taliban are Hanafi, but very strict in their interpretations and under extreme influence of wahhabism (Hanbali).
cant understand people defending a bloodthirsty ideology
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@no1marauder saidLOL…terrorism has that effect
The BBC is reporting that Kabul itself is "quiet and calm". https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58232815
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@mott-the-hoople saidAnd yet, here you are, defending extreme right Americanism.
six of one, half dozen of the other.
cant understand people defending a bloodthirsty ideology
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@moonbus saidSome sure. But read the article.
It is the 'calm' of people too terrified to venture outdoors.
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@shallow-blue saidexplain…you peopld are bad about throwing things out there that really doesnt mean anything
And yet, here you are, defending extreme right Americanism.