Afghanistan - No simple answers

@mott-the-hoople said
six of one, half dozen of the other.

cant understand people defending a bloodthirsty ideology

You are a moron. A racist moron at that.

@no1marauder said
GFY, you bloodthirsty nut.

Now you want to kill millions of Afghans for their own good apparently. "Taliban territories" is now the entire country.

It's touching to see you're soooooooooooooooo concerned for the People of Afghanistan that you want to kill them.

You are the sex slave supporting nut. If you want to call me blood thirsty because I would like to kill off those who go around kidnapping young girls to make them sex slaves, go ahead.

I call you an enabler and supporter of such people. You are really a disgusting person.

@mchill said
" Any way you cut it, we are headed for a messy outcome"

This headline from the Mar 17th edition of USA today is spot on. It's "rock or a hard place" time. America can either continue to pour massive amounts of money down this 20 year black hole, or insist the Afghan army, (trained and equipped by the USA for 2 decades) stand on it's own 2 feet and fight the Taliban. Joe p ...[text shortened]... th/news/politics/2021/03/17/us-troop-withdrawal-afghanistan-trumps-deadline-weighs-biden/4667248001/

The simplest answer in this case would have been to not pull out.

There hasn't been a US casualty in Afghanistan in over a year.

https://kdvr.com/news/local/u-s-military-deaths-from-afghanistan-over-2300-nationally-and-38-coloradans/

A few billion dollars a year paid principally to US contractors out of the vast cornucopia of US deficit spending seems like a small price to pay for maintaining peace in Central Asia.

But hey, peacekeeping is now called imperialism and therefore bad. So, let the Taliban oppress the people and the Russians, Indians and Chinese scramble to fill the power vacuum for the next few years.

At least we got to pacify the domestic isolationists with short attention spans.

@no1marauder said
Maybe after more than four decades of war in their country, most Afghans just want peace.

When the Taliban wins a real election, I'll believe the people of Afghanistan want to live under a Taliban government.

@shavixmir said
You are a moron. A racist moron at that.

so you are a supporter of muslim beheading and child rape?

@sh76 said
The simplest answer in this case would have been to not pull out.

There hasn't been a US casualty in Afghanistan in over a year.

https://kdvr.com/news/local/u-s-military-deaths-from-afghanistan-over-2300-nationally-and-38-coloradans/

A few billion dollars a year paid principally to US contractors out of the vast cornucopia of US deficit spending seems like a small price ...[text shortened]... next few years.

At least we got to pacify the domestic isolationists with short attention spans.

Maybe they don't count to right wingers, but there were more Afghan civilians killed in 2020 than any previous year of the occupation.

There was no peace to "keep".

@sh76 said
When the Taliban wins a real election, I'll believe the people of Afghanistan want to live under a Taliban government.

There are plenty of governments in the Middle East that haven't won a real election that the US get along with just fine.

@eladar said
You are the sex slave supporting nut. If you want to call me blood thirsty because I would like to kill off those who go around kidnapping young girls to make them sex slaves, go ahead.

I call you an enabler and supporter of such people. You are really a disgusting person.

Actually, you'd probably like to kill those who practice sex outside of marriage (outside of procreation in fact).
You were quoted in this very forum about a year back.
When I caused you to lose your composure.
And causing you to post that people who have sex outside of marriage should be shot.

Yup. It's pretty easy to call you things.
I'll go easy on you and just call you an American 1950's relic.

@no1marauder said
Maybe they don't count to right wingers, but there were more Afghan civilians killed in 2020 than any previous year of the occupation.

There was no peace to "keep".

As opposed to life under the Taliban, which I'm sure will be all beer and Skittles.

@sh76 said
The simplest answer in this case would have been to not pull out.

There hasn't been a US casualty in Afghanistan in over a year.

https://kdvr.com/news/local/u-s-military-deaths-from-afghanistan-over-2300-nationally-and-38-coloradans/

A few billion dollars a year paid principally to US contractors out of the vast cornucopia of US deficit spending seems like a small price ...[text shortened]... next few years.

At least we got to pacify the domestic isolationists with short attention spans.

You are mistaken. There is no such thing as peacekeeping with any Sharia version of Islam. All that has happened is that the US and UN over the last 20 yrs have suppressed the Taliban. Nobody can do that forever and it was a waste of time that should never have been attempted in the first place. Now the Taliban are free to do as they please. There is only one solution .. US and UN needs to remove all who practice Sharia Islamic law from this planet. There is no other way.

@rajk999 said
You are mistaken. There is no such thing as peacekeeping with any Sharia version of Islam. All that has happened is that the US and UN over the last 20 yrs have suppressed the Taliban. Nobody can do that forever and it was a waste of time that should never have been attempted in the first place. Now the Taliban are free to do as they please. The US and UN needs to remove all who practice Sharia Islamic law from this planet. There is no other way.

Fine. Substitute "keeping the Taliban in check" for "peace." Six of one...

===The US and UN needs to remove all who practice Sharia Islamic law from this planet. There is no other way.===

Yikes! No comment.

@sh76 said
As opposed to life under the Taliban, which I'm sure will be all beer and Skittles.

It won't be pleasant for a lot of Afghans but I doubt it will be Khmer Rouge II like right wingers are claiming.

@sh76 said
Fine. Substitute "keeping the Taliban in check" for "peace." Six of one...

===The US and UN needs to remove all who practice Sharia Islamic law from this planet. There is no other way.===

Yikes! No comment.

"Yikes! No comment."

There is the problem...not many have the stomach to fix the problem, and there is only one way to do it.

@mott-the-hoople said
"Yikes! No comment."

There is the problem...not many have the stomach to fix the problem, and there is only one way to do it.

By mass murder of every Muslim?

@sh76 said
As opposed to life under the Taliban, which I'm sure will be all beer and Skittles.

Maybe not beer, but definitely opium. In all of this handwringing, one salient fact not being addressed is the Narco-State that Afghanistan has evolved into. Opium cultivation is labour intensive and insinuates itself throughout Afghan society. People survive on the credit that being involved in drug cultivation brings. The Taliban were once opposed to the poppy trade but since the US deployment in 2001, the growth of the drug trade has been significant with the Taliban no longer opposed to it.

The drug trade helped the Mujahadeen during the Afghan-Soviet war. Its safe to say that opium cultivation is embedded into the social and economic fabric of the country. That's a 40 year turf war, and the notion that warring factions will all sit down one day and think in terms of what might be democratically best for the country, is one heavily laced pipe dream.