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Mott The Hoople

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@mchill said
" Any way you cut it, we are headed for a messy outcome"

This headline from the Mar 17th edition of USA today is spot on. It's "rock or a hard place" time. America can either continue to pour massive amounts of money down this 20 year black hole, or insist the Afghan army, (trained and equipped by the USA for 2 decades) stand on it's own 2 feet and fight the Taliban. Joe p ...[text shortened]... th/news/politics/2021/03/17/us-troop-withdrawal-afghanistan-trumps-deadline-weighs-biden/4667248001/
that is not the issue…leaving all those innocent people behind is the problem.

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@no1marauder said
Maybe after more than four decades of war in their country, most Afghans just want peace.
The Taliban want to fight. They are Afghani, too

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@no1marauder said
Maybe after more than four decades of war in their country, most Afghans just want peace.
You think the Afghans will have peace? Hello? Oh, you mean the guys who run things. But not the little people.
If I may extrapolate, it would be like Socialism, where the socialists tell the people who live under their rule (under socialism) what to do. The socialists enjoy caviar, but not the people. What is the name that will be given to people who live under Socialism, anyway?

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@AverageJoe1. Oops, sorry Marauder...I meant to capitalize the People.

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@mott-the-hoople said
his statement blaming everyone but himself?
This is hysterical, especially after four years of Trump doing exactly that.

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@earl-of-trumps said
The Taliban want to fight. They are Afghani, too
You haven't been listening lately.

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@averagejoe1 said
You think the Afghans will have peace? Hello? Oh, you mean the guys who run things. But not the little people.
If I may extrapolate, it would be like Socialism, where the socialists tell the people who live under their rule (under socialism) what to do. The socialists enjoy caviar, but not the people. What is the name that will be given to people who live under Socialism, anyway?
Dictators have peace, too, after they murder all the dissidents.

You still don't understand socialism. Your scenario is not socialism. It is your wet dream, authoritarianism.

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@earl-of-trumps said
The Taliban want to fight. They are Afghani, too
I think they are just as happy the war is over as US soldiers and sailors were on V-J Day.

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@averagejoe1 said
You think the Afghans will have peace? Hello? Oh, you mean the guys who run things. But not the little people.
If I may extrapolate, it would be like Socialism, where the socialists tell the people who live under their rule (under socialism) what to do. The socialists enjoy caviar, but not the people. What is the name that will be given to people who live under Socialism, anyway?
Undoubtedly, the Taliban will run a repressive regime with no real elections and diminished rights for women.

Kinda what you right wingers are shooting for here.

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@no1marauder said
Undoubtedly, the Taliban will run a repressive regime with no real elections and diminished rights for women.

Kinda what you right wingers are shooting for here.
This is on Biden. He is President, he was not required to uphold Trump's agreement.

This thing is 100 percent on Democrats. You did it, not Trump.

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@eladar said
This is on Biden. He is President, he was not required to uphold Trump's agreement.

This thing is 100 percent on Democrats. You did it, not Trump.
I'm fine with Biden getting the credit for ending this foolish, hopeless war.

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@no1marauder said
I'm fine with Biden getting the credit for ending this foolish, hopeless war.
You are fine with everyone that the Taliban kill and little girls they make sex slaves.

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@averagejoe1 said
Churchill didn't have simple answers, either, like evacuating 250,000 from the beaches of Dunkirk, waiting to be slaughtered. All one has to do is lead. Do you think that Biden is a better leader than Trump? I know, ,that's a tough one!
Yes. Biden is a better leader than Trump.
But the bar isn't really set that high.

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@mott-the-hoople said
his statement blaming everyone but himself?
Sounds like Trump.

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@eladar said
You are fine with everyone that the Taliban kill and little girls they make sex slaves.
So you want to re-occupy Afghanistan?

Or would you simply prefer to kill everyone there?

But thank goodness no one was getting killed or used as "sex slaves" during the war.

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