@metal-brain saidI am so glad you are sticking to No1Marauder.
no1 marauder seems to have no interest in a losing debate. Biden is a republican.
He's the dude that keeps telling me I am not a Libertarian, even though I am registered as one in my city.
Good! Stick it to him.
@metal-brain saidHas it occurred to you that I don't want to waste my time in one of your ridiculous threads?
No1Marauder has posted nothing on here. Is that the best you can do? Just wait until no1 posts a fact you are incapable of posting yourself? That is your debate style? LOL!
Have you ever considered the possibility no1 is just as frustrated as you are? That would explain why he has posted nothing on this thread. He is probably stomping his feet right now nearing a breakdown.
I hadn't even looked at it until this morning and see no reason to post in it. If you really think the platform Donald Trump is running on is "left", you're completely delusional.
I don't generally read your threads anymore because they are usually just absurd conspiracy theories fed to you by nutty websites. When you are confronted with facts rendering these theories untenable, you get upset and start tossing around personal insults and/or pivoting to some other absurd conspiracy theory. This makes the threads a complete waste of time for any rational person.
As for the premise of the thread, Biden is in the center wing of the Democratic party, quite similar ideologically to where Bill Clinton was. A lot of these ideas are no longer acceptable to the left wing of the party and may have intersected with some "moderate" Republicans long ago, but there aren't really any "moderate" Republicans anymore (at least in federal offices) so calling Biden a "Republican" is fairly ludicrous.
26 Sep 20
@earl-of-trumps said😢
I am so glad you are sticking to No1Marauder.
He's the dude that keeps telling me I am not a Libertarian, even though I am registered as one in my city.
Good! Stick it to him.
You don't even accept the social positions of the laissez faire party that hijacked the term "libertarian" from its anarchist roots.
26 Sep 20
@earl-of-trumps saidYou're a libertarian in the same way Bill O'Reilly claimed to be a registered Independent.
He's the dude that keeps telling me I am not a Libertarian, even though I am registered as one
26 Sep 20
@no1marauder saidYou have no evidence.
😢
You don't even accept the social positions of the laissez faire party that hijacked the term "libertarian" from its anarchist roots.
You also have no credibility
26 Sep 20
@earl-of-trumps said"Libertarians believe that the War on Drugs is ineffective, unfair, and immoral. We advocate ending it."
You have no evidence.
You also have no credibility
"We believe that ending the racist War on Drugs is an essential part of any plan to improve our justice system. Millions of people, disproportionately people of color, are arrested, jailed, and given a criminal record because they voluntarily chose to consume something. Not only is it immoral for the government to decide what is and is not acceptable for people to consume, criminalizing drugs does nothing to reduce the scourge of drug addiction and abuse. The War on Drugs hurts the people we should be trying to help and diverts criminal justice resources away from prosecuting actual crimes committed against people and property."
"Libertarians believe that if someone is peaceful, they should be welcome to immigrate to the United States..................................... Libertarians do not support classifying undocumented immigrants as criminals. "
https://www.lp.org/issues/
26 Sep 20
@no1marauder saidYou are incapable of proving Biden is to the left of Trump. You are not fooling anyone.
Has it occurred to you that I don't want to waste my time in one of your ridiculous threads?
I hadn't even looked at it until this morning and see no reason to post in it. If you really think the platform Donald Trump is running on is "left", you're completely delusional.
I don't generally read your threads anymore because they are usually just absurd conspiracy the ...[text shortened]... publicans anymore (at least in federal offices) so calling Biden a "Republican" is fairly ludicrous.
https://inthesetimes.com/article/joe-biden-cut-medicare-social-security-retirement-age
26 Sep 20
@earl-of-trumps saidFrom the Libertarian Party platform:
You have no evidence.
You also have no credibility
"1.5 Abortion
Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration."
" Laws should be limited in their application to violations of the rights of others through force or fraud, or to deliberate actions that place others involuntarily at significant risk of harm. Therefore, we favor the repeal of all laws creating “crimes” without victims, such as gambling, the use of drugs for medicinal or recreational purposes, and consensual transactions involving sexual services."
"We oppose the administration of the death penalty by the state."
https://www.lp.org/platform/
26 Sep 20
@metal-brain saidTrump wants to eliminate the FICA payroll tax in its entirety. The result would be:
You are incapable of proving Biden is to the left of Trump. You are not fooling anyone.
https://inthesetimes.com/article/joe-biden-cut-medicare-social-security-retirement-age
"If in 2021, a second-term President Trump permanently eliminates the employee share of the Social Security tax along the lines that he has proposed for his temporary tax delay—limiting it to workers under the wage threshold—the combined trust fund would be exhausted five years later, in 2026, or nine years sooner than the actuaries predicted in April of this year. With the trust fund exhausted, remaining revenues would only be able to pay for 59 percent of promised benefits, and that portion would decline over time. For an average earner who retires at the age of 65, a 41 percent benefit cut in 2026 would be a loss $731 per month, or $8,772 over a year, in today’s dollars.
Under an alternate assumption of Trump’s policy—permanently eliminating the tax for wages under that threshold, including for workers earning more—the combined trust fund would be exhausted in 2025. With the trust fund exhausted, remaining revenues would only be able to pay for 50 percent of promised benefits, declining over time. For an average earner who retires at the age of 65, a 50 percent benefit cut in 2025 would be a loss of $859 per month, or $10,313 over a year, in today’s dollars."
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/economy/news/2020/08/12/489401/trumps-plan-defund-social-security/
That's the proposal Trump came up with last month, not almost 10 years ago in the midst of trying to satisfy Republican demands to reduce spending on these programs.
26 Sep 20
@earl-of-trumps saidHerd mentality in action!
I am so glad you are sticking to No1Marauder.
He's the dude that keeps telling me I am not a Libertarian, even though I am registered as one in my city.
Good! Stick it to him.
@metal-brain saidFrom the Democratic Platform Biden is running on:
You are incapable of proving Biden is to the left of Trump. You are not fooling anyone.
https://inthesetimes.com/article/joe-biden-cut-medicare-social-security-retirement-age
"Social Security is the most enduring thread in our nation’s social safety net. We will enact policies to make Social Security more progressive, including increasing benefits for all
beneficiaries, meaningfully increasing minimum benefit payments, increasing benefits for long-duration beneficiaries, and protecting surviving spouses from benefit cuts. We will
eliminate provisions that unfairly reduce public sector workers’ earned Social Security benefits.
In light of weakened retirement security for unpaid caregivers and caregivers for family members, who sacrifice not only wages but Social Security benefits when they swap paid labor
for unpaid care work, Democrats support Social Security reform which better accounts for the challenges facing unpaid caregivers—including incremental reforms to the benefit formula to mitigate the penalty for unpaid care.
Democrats will reject every effort to cut, privatize, or weaken Social Security, including attempts to raise the retirement age, diminish benefits by cutting cost-of-living adjustments, or reduce earned benefits. We will ensure Social Security will be there forever."
https://www.demconvention.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020-07-31-Democratic-Party-Platform-For-Distribution.pdf p. 26
26 Sep 20
@metal-brain saidThe House passed legislation to lower prescription drug prices last December but Moscow Mitch called it "socialist" and refused to allow a Senate vote.
FDR was left. Biden is to the right of Trump. He tried to cut medicare and social security (Obama too). Trump lowered our prescription drug costs with a simple executive order. Obama didn't do that for us. Trump is to the left of Obama and Biden.
Biden is a republican on acid. All you have to do is look at his voting record. Democrats are falling into the trench of denial now. They want to run away from the facts. They can't handle the truth.
As for Trump: "Pelosi had tried for months to win Trump’s support for the bill, given that he broke from Republican orthodoxy and supported government negotiation on drug prices during his 2016 campaign.
After months of talks between Pelosi’s staff and the White House, though, the administration came out against the measure, leading Democrats to say Trump is breaking his promise to support negotiation for lower prices."
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/474294-house-passes-sweeping-pelosi-bill-to-lower-drug-prices
26 Sep 20
@no1marauder saidBiden supported the same.
Trump wants to eliminate the FICA payroll tax in its entirety. The result would be:
"If in 2021, a second-term President Trump permanently eliminates the employee share of the Social Security tax along the lines that he has proposed for his temporary tax delay—limiting it to workers under the wage threshold—the combined trust fund would be exhausted five years later, i ...[text shortened]... years ago in the midst of trying to satisfy Republican demands to reduce spending on these programs.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/08/09/biden-loved-payroll-tax-cuts-until-trump-did-them-n2573989