Biden is a republican pretending to be a democrat

@no1marauder said
Of course that's ridiculous, but as a matter of fact, I didn't vote for Obama in either 2008 or 2012.

The ACA has its flaws, but it has provided health care coverage to tens of millions of Americans who couldn't afford it beforehand. That's a bit more important than an executive order that means absolutely nothing promulgated by a con artist in the middle of an election campaign.

@no1marauder said
I've already stated my position; if I was in a swing state I'd vote for Biden for the reasons explained on the "Not Him - US" website.

I'm in a solidly blue State, have voted for Hawkins for Governor several times and will cast my vote for him for President this year.

@metal-brain said
"That's a bit more important than an executive order that means absolutely nothing promulgated by a con artist in the middle of an election campaign."

Of course that's ridiculous for you to say it means "absolutely nothing" and I think you know that.

@no1marauder said
If you had bothered to read my post, you'd know that Trump hasn't done a single thing to put those executive orders into effect. Chances are, he never will:

"As of August 22nd, the Administration hasn’t carried out formal preparation to actually implement any of the four executive orders."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2020/07/25/trumps-executive-orders-on-drug-pricing-contain-caveats-and-limitations/#52767e985001

Biden is running campaign ads in Michigan saying he gives his word he is going to protect medicare and SS, but he has already said he would veto medicare for all.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/10/biden-says-he-wouldd-veto-medicare-for-all-as-coronavirus-focuses-attention-on-health.html

Biden claims he wants to expand health care. He already ruled out universal health care saying the price is too high, yet he says he wants to increase military spending.

https://www.democracynow.org/2020/9/11/headlines/joe_biden_says_he_may_further_increase_military_spending_if_elected

If anyone knows he said these things and still votes for him that person is a chump. It is one thing to vote out of ignorance of these facts, but it is quite another to know it and be an idiot anyway. Biden says he wants your money for bombs but not universal health care to take care of you.

Biden would have to shout he is an imperialist that wants war to make his intentions more clear. Guns, not health. He doesn't care about you.

@metal-brain said
That article says Trump is using the threat of following through with the executive order as a bargaining position to get concessions from big pharma. If he fails to follow through you can tell me you told me so, but until then all you have is a "he might not" argument. It is actually a lot like the "whataboutism" you use to weasel out of completely valid and fair compari ...[text shortened]... d a democrat when they really have a choice between 2 republicans. Obama was also a DINO republican.

@metal-brain said
Biden is running campaign ads in Michigan saying he gives his word he is going to protect medicare and SS, but he has already said he would veto medicare for all.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/10/biden-says-he-wouldd-veto-medicare-for-all-as-coronavirus-focuses-attention-on-health.html

Biden claims he wants to expand health care. He already ruled out universal health ...[text shortened]... alist that wants war to make his intentions more clear. Guns, not health. He doesn't care about you.

@no1marauder said
LMAO! If Trump's meaningless executive order is irrelevant to the subject of this thread, why did you bring it up on page 1 of it?

You're really reaching and I think you know it. The guy who wrote the article you cited in your OP doesn't even agree with your far out idea that Trump's policy positions are to the Left of Biden; few sane people do.

@metal-brain said
LOL!
This thread is not about Trump, it is about Biden.
You have failed to prove Biden is a true democrat.

I know you would rather digress into Trump so you don't have to defend Biden. It is a losing debate. I understand.

What about Biden?

@no1marauder said
From the Democratic Party Platform Biden is running on:

"ACHIEVING UNIVERSAL, AFFORDABLE, QUALITY HEALTH CARE

Democrats have fought to achieve universal health care for a century. We are proud to be the party of Medicare, Medicaid, and the Affordable Care Act. Because of the Obama-Biden
Administration and the Affordable Care Act, more than 100 million Americans wit ...[text shortened]... ution.pdf pp. 26-27.

So much for the "Biden doesn't support universal health care" nonsense.

@kevcvs57 said
But but but the thread is asking for a comparative debate regarding Trump and Biden in terms of which one is the most left leaning. How can Trumps record be left out of that comparison?

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@metal-brain said
LOL!!!!!

Biden isn't running on the Democratic Party Platform. He openly stabbed universal health care in the front when he said he would veto medicare for all. This is NOT an opinion, it is a fact. Facts are something you have a hard time accepting.

Obama and Biden gave us the republican health care proposal, not the democrats health care proposal. He discarded the ...[text shortened]... /www.nytimes.com/2012/02/15/health/policy/health-care-mandate-was-first-backed-by-conservatives.html

@no1marauder said
Of course Biden is running on the Democratic Party Platform; he's the Democratic candidate. And it was agreed on by the delegates to the Democratic National Convention a solid majority of whom were pledged to ...................................... Joe Biden.

The "Republican health care proposal" in 2010 was no change from the status quo. The ACA, flawed as it might be, ...[text shortened]... _lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00396

So your characterization is bunk.

@metal-brain said
LOL!
This thread is not about Trump, it is about Biden.
You have failed to prove Biden is a true democrat.

I know you would rather digress into Trump so you don't have to defend Biden. It is a losing debate. I understand.

What about Biden?

@metal-brain said
LMAO!
The "Republican health care proposal" is the Democratic Party Platform? Hey Lucy, you have some 'splaining to do. LOL!