Capitol Punishment

Originally posted by duecer
1. capital punishment costs more than incarcerating someone for the rest of their natural lives.
2. If even one innocent life is taken injustly, then the whole system is a failure and must be scrapped.
3. It is not a deterrant.

1. capital punishment costs more than incarcerating someone for the rest of their natural lives.

like I said previously (see page 2), it depends on the method of execution, and the time it takes to happen.

Originally posted by sh76
It's kidnapping.

do you think people in jail want to be there?

they're being held against their will, but that doesn't mean its illegal, or "kidnapping".

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
I still don't get the criterion upon which you base the distinction between imprisonment and the death penalty.

I spelled it out earlier.

Imprisonment is both necessary and undoable and execution is unnecessary and perminent.

Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
Plus:

Incarrerating someone is both, necessary and undoable.

The death penalty is is both unnessary and perminant.

why would you release murderers who are in jail for life?

take mark chapman for example, the guy admmited murdering john lennon, and he's in jail for life. why not end his life? he's never going to get out.

Originally posted by generalissimo
why would you release murderers who are in jail for life?

take mark chapman for example, the guy admmited murdering john lennon, and he's in jail for life. why not end his life? he's never going to get out.

It's not the murderers I'm worry about. It's the innocent people who are wrongly convicted.

Originally posted by generalissimo
take mark chapman for example, the guy admmited murdering john lennon, and he's in jail for life. why not end his life? he's never going to get out.

Do you advocate executing the mentally ill?

Originally posted by FMF
Imprisonment doesn't involve taking a life. At least not normally or deliberately. I think we have an unaliable right to life but no inaliable right NOT to be punished for crimes.

Okay, so it's pretty arbitrary then.

Originally posted by FMF
Do you advocate executing the mentally ill?

If they're murderers yes, they're not above the law simply because of their condition.

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Okay, so it's pretty arbitrary then.

Hardly. The difference between being dead and not dead presents us with just about the most clear cut and diametrically opposed realities that humans can possibly conceive of. To recognize this is patently objective, circumpspect, rational and the opposite of arbitrary. What is "pretty arbitrary", indeed, is for a society to say: we reserve the right to end people's lives.

Originally posted by generalissimo
If they're murderers yes, they're not above the law simply because of their condition.

The mentally handicapped? People in a coma? Teenagers? Pregnant women?

Originally posted by FMF
The mentally handicapped? People in a coma? Teenagers? Pregnant women?

are you stupid or what?

The example (Mark chapman) murdered someone, he's in jail for life, I think he should be executed.

Im not saying all the mentally ill should be killed (criminals and non-criminlas) because of their condition, I said they're not above the law, if they commit crimes they should suffer the consequences.


As far as Im aware, people in comma don't commit crimes.
Teenagers, yes, they're not above the law either.
Pregnant women, no, since the baby is not guilty of anything.

Originally posted by FMF
Hardly. The difference between being dead and not dead presents us with just about the most clear cut and diametrically opposed realities that humans can possibly conceive of. To recognize this is patently objective, circumpspect, rational and the opposite of arbitrary. What is "pretty arbitrary", indeed, is for a society to say: we reserve the right to end people's lives.

Does that mean you're against abortion as well?

Originally posted by generalissimo
Does that mean you're against abortion as well?

In my personal life? Yes. Absolutely. But I think it should be legal. I think a woman should have the right to choose.

Originally posted by generalissimo
As far as Im aware, people in comma don't commit crimes.

How astute of you.

So that's a yes to the mentally ill being executed.

A yes to the teenagers being executed.

A yes to the mentally handicapped being executed.

A no to pregnant women.

A yes to murderers in a coma being executed, have I got that right?

A no to innocent people in comas being executed.

Yes?

Originally posted by FMF
How astute of you.

So that's a yes to the mentally ill being executed.

A yes to the teenagers being executed.

A yes to the mentally handicapped being executed.

A no to pregnant women.

A yes to murderers in a coma being executed, have I got that right?

A no to innocent people in comas being executed.

Yes?

There is no need to appeal to emotion.

Nobody is above the law, it doesn't matter if they're in coma or not, a murderer is still a murderer.

If you commit a crime you suffer the consequences.