21 Apr 21
@no1marauder saidI still don’t understand how that’s a possible.
They render verdicts on all three counts so that if one or more of the more serious convictions is overturned on appeal, the lower one(s) can still stand.
You may as well through a hundred different charges at someone and pray to God one sticks.
@shavixmir saidCharges without a legal and/or factual basis can and should be dismissed by the judge before or during trial.
I still don’t understand how that’s a possible.
You may as well through a hundred different charges at someone and pray to God one sticks.
21 Apr 21
@no1marauder saidassuming the judge isnt an activist
Charges without a legal and/or factual basis can and should be dismissed by the judge before or during trial.
The post that was quoted here has been removedThe civil suit with Floyd's family was against the police department, not Chauvin.
A civil suit isn't the same as a criminal trial. In a civil suit, you have to show a party was liable for someone's death rather than guilty of it. OJ Simpson was acquitted in the murder trial but lost the civil suit afterward to Goldman's family.
21 Apr 21
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The post that was quoted here has been removedIt would be difficult to prove this had a significant effect on the jury given the already massive media coverage where there were even hit radio songs discussing the murder.
More importantly, the jurors were agreed upon by both the prosecution and the defense. The defense would be admitting they chose jurors they believed already had prejudice against their defendant. The defense would likely have to answer questions regarding why they didn't better screen prospective jurors.
21 Apr 21
@mott-the-hoople saidHis right wing framing of people as activist is activism. You do know that, don’t you?
assuming the judge isnt an activist
21 Apr 21
@shavixmir saidIt started out with the District Attorney making those 3 charges against the defendant. Very unusual.
Well, he’s been found guilty of manslaughter. And second degree murder. And third degree murder.
Don’t get me wrong, that the man’s convicted looks to me pretty much correct, but how can one person be charged with three different accounts on the death of one person?
Surely it’s a case of “either” and not “and” ?
And whilst explaining that to me, what the hell is third degree murder anyway, if not manslaughter?
The episode shows, IMO, how the jury can become scared to death to make a wrong move and to then
be doxed and taken out by Cancel Culture. Surely, Maxine Waters maximized their fear and gave rise to an appeal.
21 Apr 21
@shavixmir saidBe more specific. Are you talking about the Judge commenting on the actions and words of Congresswoman Waters?
His right wing framing of people as activist is activism. You do know that, don’t you?
Well, hot damn, the judge had to make a ruling on whether or not to throw the whole case out because of her.
This makes the judge an activist but leaves Waters an angel?? Jeeeeeeezus 😠😳
@earl-of-trumps saidIt's not unusual at all for a DA to charge different crimes using different elements and types of intent in a homicide case.
It started out with the District Attorney making those 3 charges against the defendant. Very unusual.
The episode shows, IMO, how the jury can become scared to death to make a wrong move and to then
be doxed and taken out by Cancel Culture. Surely, Maxine Waters maximized their fear and gave rise to an appeal.
Right wingers were always going make evidence free charges of jury intimidation if Chauvin was convicted; it's no surprise our particularly gullible representatives of that mindset are quickly regurgitating FoxNews talking points.