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@jj-adams said
You don't know what happened.
The police let him go for a reason.
Because they say they couldn't hold him for more than 24 hours.

Charges probably haven't been filed.

Astounding, since this is a hate crime.

Doesn't Missouri care about hate crimes?

For those who have forgotten, Ferguson (where Michael Brown was gunned down by white police officer Darren Wilson) is in Missouri.

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@no1marauder said
I think that's a premature assumption.

The police may well have figured a man in his 80s wasn't much of a flight risk and that because the injuries weren't fatal, interviewing the alleged victim might be appropriate before filing charges.

A judgment call, maybe or maybe not influenced by racial factors.
Do you shoot just anyone who rings your doorbell?

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@wajoma said
Yep, if that isn't the most idiotic thing I've ever heard, grabbing a gun that's pointed at you, if there's a finger on the trigger that thing is going off.
That's why you don't pull on it, doofus.

In close quarters, you have to put a hand on the barrel of a shotgun in order to point it away from you. You certainly don't go pulling on it. If anything, you put two hands on it and smash it into the guy's face.

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@wajoma said
Yep, if that isn't the most idiotic thing I've ever heard, grabbing a gun that's pointed at you, if there's a finger on the trigger that thing is going off.
Gee, what's your preferred strategy when four men confront you and point a shotgun at you? I guess you can hope for mercy.

The law certainly allows you to try and disarm an assailant as "idiotic" as that might sound to you.

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@suzianne said
Do you shoot just anyone who rings your doorbell?
No. But still outside of the optics, I don't see any real necessity for an immediate charge under these circumstances. The shooter might have dementia or Alzheimers for all we know.

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@suzianne said
Do you shoot just anyone who rings your doorbell?
that's a separate issue.

why he shot the kid is racism.
why he was released could just be police procedure

like i said, shine a light on this and put pressure on the police.

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@no1marauder said
Gee, what's your preferred strategy when four men confront you and point a shotgun at you? I guess you can hope for mercy.

The law certainly allows you to try and disarm an assailant as "idiotic" as that might sound to you.
You and suzi are certifiably insane, advising unarmed citizens to grab guns pointed at them if they should be unfortunate enough to be in that situation is going to get people killed. That's the message you're being given by the gun, don't move, don't try any stupid tricks, the needle is all the way in the red on the high risk gauge.

Internet tough guy.

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@zahlanzi said
that's a separate issue.

why he shot the kid is racism.
why he was released could just be police procedure

like i said, shine a light on this and put pressure on the police.
haha, the cops are reading RHP's collection of bored, waiting for a move, chess playing. time wasters and will be duely altering their course of action.

Which is funnier in a sad defeated way, zahlooney bamboozle thinking the cops have a special division reading RHP message board, or, No.1 and suzi advising jason stratham movie moves that have been practiced 50 times off camera with prop guns against guns pointed in their direction?

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@wajoma said
You and suzi are certifiably insane, advising unarmed citizens to grab guns pointed at them if they should be unfortunate enough to be in that situation is going to get people killed. That's the message you're being given by the gun, don't move, don't try any stupid tricks, the needle is all the way in the red on the high risk gauge.

Internet tough guy.
Being a pussy isn't necessarily the best survival strategy.

If you're reasonably certain someone is going to shoot you (and I was always taught that you only point a gun at something if you intend to shoot it) and there's a reasonable chance you can disarm them and little chance of escape, it's worth trying.

All those factors were present in the Arbery case.

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@no1marauder said
Being a pussy isn't necessarily the best survival strategy.

If you're reasonably certain someone is going to shoot you (and I was always taught that you only point a gun at something if you intend to shoot it) and there's a reasonable chance you can disarm them and little chance of escape, it's worth trying.

All those factors were present in the Arbery case.
Now No1 has got arbery out running shot gun pellets, please stop, it's a rollercoaster of despair (that I'm here reading this stuff) and laughing (like at down syndrome kids).

If their intention was to shoot Abery wouldn't it be better to blast him from a distance rather than get up close and into a situation where the weapon might be turned on them? As with so many of these scenarios all that has to be done is play it out. Like zahlooney bamboozle and suzi, with their 'kid got shot because he was black' scenario and then supposedly local police are in on the whole deal scenario, then the old dude just goes back inside to watch tv scenario, maybe they even have neegra (look at the title of this thread) hunting licenses down that way scenario.

Edit: No1 said "...you only point a gun at something if you intend to shoot it. You have to be able to shoot, you don't have to intend to shoot, more internet tough guy speak, where there are people involved the first hope is that they will comply and thus avoid all the blood.

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@wajoma said
Now No1 has got arbery out running shot gun pellets, please stop, it's a rollercoaster of despair (that I'm here reading this stuff) and laughing (like at down syndrome kids).

If their intention was to shoot Abery wouldn't it be better to blast him from a distance rather than get up close and into a situation where the weapon might be turned on them? As with so many of thes ...[text shortened]... here there are people involved the first hope is that they will comply and thus avoid all the blood.
Your ignorance of the facts of the Arbery case is noted.

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@no1marauder said
Your ignorance of the facts of the Arbery case is noted.
The neighborhood watch go around shooting joggers, we got it.

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@wajoma said
The neighborhood watch go around shooting joggers, we got it.
Your continued, insistent ignorance of the facts of the Arbery case is noted.

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@wajoma said
The neighborhood watch go around shooting joggers, we got it.
Quit hijacking the thread, moron.

Meanwhile, facts are coming to light in the case of Ralph Yarl. The shooter apparently does not have dementia, and the prosecutor says there is indeed a racial component to the circumstances.

The 85-year-old gave the usual song and dance: allegedly "scared for his life" because of the size of the teenager, thought he was going to be attacked in his own home, etc. Claimed to be defenseless, despite having a gun and clearly being able to use it.

Here we go again.

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@soothfast said
Quit hijacking the thread, moron.

Meanwhile, facts are coming to light in the case of Ralph Yarl. The shooter apparently does not have dementia, and the prosecutor says there is indeed a racial component to the circumstances.

The 85-year-old gave the usual song and dance: allegedly "scared for his life" because of the size of the teenager, thought he was going to be ...[text shortened]... aimed to be defenseless, despite having a gun and clearly being able to use it.

Here we go again.
There's nothing he could do. According to prosecutors, the victim was on the other side of a locked door, no words were exchanged, so the homeowner obviously had to shoot him... Twice.

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