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Suzianne
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@AverageJoe1 said
Ask Zhalanzi, if people break laws being illegally here, or, even if they are Legally here, and they come up to his front door and ask for housing, food, medicine etc, and he turns them away...........Someone is asking him to support them,,,,,,IF he turns them away, is that an act of cruelty?
Maybe it is, but I want to get his honest opinion. I just do not see it.
This is a forum, this is a friendly debate.
Doesn't sound that "friendly" to me.

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@Rajk999 said
I know why. You are a damn liar.
Have it your way. I'm just glad you don't live here to vote with all these morons.

no1marauder
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@Mott-The-Hoople said
nope, Trump wont sign bidens bill giving ukraine 65 billion and doing nothing to curb illegal immigration....the bill was to prevent Trump from doing anything.

Besides biden didnt need a bill to get immigration under control...but you continue on living a lie
The bill would have allowed summary denial of any asylum claim by those who entered the country anywhere but official points of entry; this would have permitted prompt removal.

Trump tried doing this by executive order but the courts found him to be in violation of specific statutory language and slapped him down.

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@no1marauder said
I doubt it. Republicans will insist on adding more draconian measures that Democrats won't accept. Say hello to the filibuster AJ loves soooooooo much.
Unless Trump tells them not to.

Dems are gonna have to choose what to filibuster. They don't wanna come off as azzholes. Might be good to keep their powder dry. But yeah, Ukraine aid gets stripped, that's a given.

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@spruce112358 said
Unless Trump tells them not to.

Dems are gonna have to choose what to filibuster. They don't wanna come off as azzholes. Might be good to keep their powder dry. But yeah, Ukraine aid gets stripped, that's a given.
There doesn't seem to be much of a political downside to filibustering.

AverageJoe1
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@spruce112358 said
It WILL be passed...now.

That's the hilarious part. Trump signs the bill Biden worked so fuuking hard to create.

Genius.
Genius. And now, together with Elon. Y'all best get a first class seat on Train 47!!

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@Rajk999 said
Its not your individual or private responsibility. Why do you keep confusing the issue. Its the responsibllity of the state to deal with immigrants
I am not so sure, I am late on forum conversation today, but the invaders have breached a Federal Border. It is a Federal problem. Texas is unfortunately in the way. People who have over the years settled there 'came to the nuisance'.....they knew they would be living just miles from a different culture. (you know how i am about mixing it up culturally...brrrrr)
If I move to a golf course, I come to the nuisance of flying golf balls. No one to blame but myself.

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@Suzianne said
But somehow AvJoe keeps saying he doesn't want to pay for it. He thinks that when he pays his taxes, that money is somehow still his to use again, or at least to dictate where it gets used. Makes no sense to me.
Try this, little feller. If you are a member with 49 other women of a Poster Making, club, and there is a strong box with all the dues (like taxes), that money is your money together with their money. It is subject to the wishes of the club committees (congress). That is it, you cannot change your charter. It sits there.
If you disband the Club, there may be $500 in that strong box, so each lady gets $10 when it is all closed out.
So, in closing, Sue, it appears that the money was always there, voluntarily put there for an agreed-upon use.
I would like to have your response, I may be missing something?

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@wildgrass
One thing he DID just say today, 'Price is no matter'. So if it costs 1 TRILLION dollars just for 1 Trillion dollars, that is more than we spent on the Ukraine war which of course now is over, Trump will just force Ukraine to accept losing half their territory to the barbarian Putin, whom Trump WORSHIPS.

at 88 billion per million in concentration camps, another 700 billion so pushing close to TWO TRILLION dollars for this REALLY stupid idea.

Trump could care less about lost jobs, that is what the small businesses are going to do to replace those workers, but there are not enough in the entire US to do that so a lot of small business will collapse, meaning less IRS dollars to the treasury.

Don't get me started on the insane tariff crap he will implement.

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@spruce112358 said

All for mowing your lawn and shingling your house.
Oh, don’t be to hard on the people who voted for Trump.

Just call them uneducated, or bigots, or whatever.

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@divegeester
Stupid and pathologically uninformed deliberately comes to mind. Trump LOVES stupid and uninformed people.

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@sonhouse said
@divegeester
Stupid and pathologically uninformed deliberately comes to mind. Trump LOVES stupid and uninformed people.
I’m sorry I don’t know which post you are referring to.

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@divegeester
Just about the people who voted for Trump, they haven't a clue as to the hell they are starting in the US, but that is exactly what Trump counted on.
Informed and smart voters, Trump wants nothing to do with those folks.

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@sonhouse said
@divegeester
Just about the people who voted for Trump, they haven't a clue as to the hell they are starting in the US, but that is exactly what Trump counted on.
Informed and smart voters, Trump wants nothing to do with those folks.
I’m sorry I don’t know which post you are referring to.

spruce112358
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@divegeester said
Oh, don’t be to hard on the people who voted for Trump.

Just call them uneducated, or bigots, or whatever.
I guess we are gonna call Trump voters 'roofers.' 'Roofers' and 'mowers.' 😆

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