01 Feb 08
...'cause they're rationing health care there. How come Obama bin Laden and Madame Hillary never mention rationing when waxing eloquently about government-run health care for Americans? Could it be that the "R" word would stop any discussion of "free" health care dead in it's tracks?
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/short/336/7638/238
01 Feb 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterI'm from Glasgow. Growing old isn't really one of our options.
...'cause they're rationing health care there. How come Obama bin Laden and Madame Hillary never mention rationing when waxing eloquently about government-run health care for Americans? Could it be that the "R" word would stop any discussion of "free" health care dead in it's tracks?
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/short/336/7638/238
01 Feb 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterMissing the point, as usual.
...'cause they're rationing health care there. How come Obama bin Laden and Madame Hillary never mention rationing when waxing eloquently about government-run health care for Americans? Could it be that the "R" word would stop any discussion of "free" health care dead in it's tracks?
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/short/336/7638/238
The point here is that, in Scotland, unlike the rest of the yookay, personal care for elderly people is free.
In England, old people are forced to sell their homes or other assets to pay for their care. In Scotland, it is free.
So, you're better off growing old in Scotland.
01 Feb 08
Originally posted by RedmikeCorrection there Red:
Missing the point, as usual.
The point here is that, in Scotland, unlike the rest of the yookay, personal care for elderly people is free.
In England, old people are forced to sell their homes or other assets to pay for their care. In Scotland, it is free.
So, you're better off growing old in Scotland.
It is not free. You've either paid for it yourself, or if you're a parasite and you're making someone else pay for it against their will.
Not free.
01 Feb 08
Originally posted by WajomaEven by your own arguement, which I don't accept, it is still free to the person receiving the service.
Correction there Red:
It is not free. You've either paid for it yourself, or if you're a parasite and you're making someone else pay for it against their will.
Not free.
Which is better than the rest of the uk.
01 Feb 08
Originally posted by WajomaIt is quite likely you've paid for it by taxation, or certainly some of it.
It's not free then, you've paid for it yourself.
Thank you and good night.
But this isn't by any means certain.
It is perfectly possible to pay no taxes and still get the benefits of other people's taxation.
And quite rightly.
01 Feb 08
Originally posted by WajomaMeaning that even if you're unemployed all your life, you are still looked after when you're old.
It's not free then, you've paid for it yourself.
Thank you and good night.
And I think it's something you Americans should be looking at, seeing the way your economy is going. You'll be glad of a safety net in the end.
Europe wasn't for the first 1200 years either.
01 Feb 08
Originally posted by RedmikeIt's still not 'free'. Free is free from force. The only way it cvould be considered free is if it is given voluntarily
It is quite likely you've paid for it by taxation, or certainly some of it.
But this isn't by any means certain.
It is perfectly possible to pay no taxes and still get the benefits of other people's taxation.
And quite rightly.
Please refrain from using the 'f' word until you know what it means.
01 Feb 08
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Originally posted by shavixmirI'm a NZer Shav, and I've seen the so called safety net. When my parents were younger the pollies told them "Give us this money now, and we'll give it back later when you're old" Unfortunately the pollies that made that promise are gone along with most of the money.
Meaning that even if you're unemployed all your life, you are still looked after when you're old.
And I think it's something you Americans should be looking at, seeing the way your economy is going. You'll be glad of a safety net in the end.
Europe wasn't for the first 1200 years either.
Safety net? More like a couple of strands of rotted cotten. Unless you've made provision yourself (on top of investing in the compulsory gummint scheme) you're gonig to fall....fallll....falllllll