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@kmax87 saidFor argument's sake, if the cost of enemy military hardware destroyed by the F-35 exceeds $1.7 trillion, I will admit that it was worth the tax money. If it was a F-35 vs. F-16 (at $35M) battle, the F-35 would need to take down 48,571 F-16s? That seems unlikely given the direction that modern warfare is moving towards. The F-35 is a really neat but impractical tool, taking your family on a roadtrip in a lambo.
If you compare one platform with a kill ratio of 20:1 to another, and if the first platform costs 100 million dollars, then that would suggest your opposition would cost 5 million bucks per piece. What does an F16 cost for argument's sake? Roughly 30 million bucks. So at a 20:1 kill ratio an F-35 could cost up to 600 million bucks per piece and still be a value proposition. No?
It seems clear that this jet is optimally designed to fight wars we already fought 30 years ago. What good is stealth if the enemy can hack the Pentagon and remain there undetected for a year? Investments in drone flight, space flight, and cybersecurity seem much more likely to have lasting impacts.
19 Mar 21
@wildgrass said
For argument's sake, if the cost of enemy military hardware destroyed by the F-35 exceeds $1.7 trillion, I will admit that it was worth the tax money. If it was a F-35 vs. F-16 (at $35M) battle, the F-35 would need to take down 48,571 F-16s? That seems unlikely given the direction that modern warfare is moving towards. The F-35 is a really neat but impractical tool, taking ...[text shortened]... ents in drone flight, space flight, and cybersecurity seem much more likely to have lasting impacts.
If it was a F-35 vs. F-16 (at $35M) battle, the F-35 would need to take down 48,571 F-16s?
3 F16s. An F35 costs 80 million.
The F16 program cost 18 billion.
@wildgrass -
If it was a F-35 vs. F-16 (at $35M) battle, the F-35 would need to take down 48,571 F-16s?
Apparently. your math needs to be checked, me man 😆 😆
19 Mar 21
@athousandyoung saidJust curious, ATY, did you use constant dollars? (all the same year)If it was a F-35 vs. F-16 (at $35M) battle, the F-35 would need to take down 48,571 F-16s?
3 F16s. An F35 costs 80 million.
The F16 program cost 18 billion.
19 Mar 21
@earl-of-trumps said$35 million x 48,571 =~ $1.7 trillion
@wildgrass -
If it was a F-35 vs. F-16 (at $35M) battle, the F-35 would need to take down 48,571 F-16s?
Apparently. your math needs to be checked, me man 😆 😆
19 Mar 21
@earl-of-trumps saidI have no idea but if anything inflation would increase the cost of the F16 if I weren’t.
Just curious, ATY, did you use constant dollars? (all the same year)
19 Mar 21
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@earl-of-trumps said
Just curious, ATY, did you use constant dollars? (all the same year)
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-lockheed-f35-idCAKBN1X81I5
The F-35A, the most common version of the aircraft, will each cost $82.4 million in 2020, $79.17 million in 2021 and $77.9 million in 2022, the Pentagon told reporters at the Pentagon on Tuesday.
19 Mar 21
@earl-of-trumps saidIt’s amazing how good chess playing software has become.
Or... the F35 can have the reputation of Duchess64, rating 2095, but never fight anyone
hahaha