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The post that was quoted here has been removedNo I’m not. I was talking about the many proven cheaters who have been banned over the years. Like Ironman31:
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20 Mar 21
@athousandyoung saidLockheed Martin is cheating......... at capitalism.
No I’m not. I was talking about the many proven cheaters who have been banned over the years. Like Ironman31:
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lol
20 Mar 21
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@wildgrass saidwhoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.
$35 million x 48,571 =~ $1.7 trillion
$35 million is the cost of ONE F16. And I looked it up, the cost can go from $12 M to $35 M, depending.
The $1.7 T is the cost of ALL crafts PLUS maintenance for the life of the crafts where it costs $36,000 per hour to run one.
Do the math there to see why $1.7 T is NOT the cost of one craft.
A single Air Force F-35A costs a whopping $148 million. One Marine Corps F-35B costs an unbelievable $251 million.
A lone Navy F-35C costs a mind-boggling $337 million. Average the three models together, and a “generic” F-35 costs $178 million.
Sheeesh!
20 Mar 21
@athousandyoung saidNo life savings...? 🙄
I have no life savings sorry!
Then forget it! I ain't playing you 😛
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21 Mar 21
@wildgrass said.............Ever notice that many retired MILITARY guys
'Twas just a simple point of comparison, not an indictment of tax bracketing.
I guess you are right that the F-35 program was successful if the goal is to transfer $1.7 trillion of US wealth from taxpayers to defense contractors. Should we feel safe now or is more required?
go to work for DEFENSE CONTRACTORS?
21 Mar 21
@jimm619 said<GRIN>
.............Ever notice that many retired MILITARY guys
go to work for DEFENSE CONTRACTORS?
Now, James... I think you are on to something 😏
22 Mar 21
@earl-of-trumps saidYou might have missed the point of the comparison. kmax87 was trying to argue that the F-35 program was a "value proposition" because it had a 20:1 kill ratio vs the F-16. But on a "per bird" basis it was not 20x more expensive. However, if you want to argue about the value of a dollar this comparison absolutely needs to include the cost of the program itself. I think if you add that in then any possible value of the F-35 goes away.
whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.
$35 million is the cost of ONE F16. And I looked it up, the cost can go from $12 M to $35 M, depending.
The $1.7 T is the cost of ALL crafts PLUS maintenance for the life of the crafts where it costs $36,000 per hour to run one.
Do the math there to see why $1.7 T is NOT the cost of one craft.
A single Air Force F-35A costs a who ...[text shortened]... illion. Average the three models together, and a “generic” F-35 costs $178 million.
Sheeesh!
I still can't envision a modern war in which we turn around and say "oh, i see now, that's why we wanted to spend almost $2 trillion to load up a jet with 1980s outdated technology". 38% of all US bridges are in critical need of replacement but we let them rot while using $100 bills as toilet paper. Other than burning money for heat or losing pallets of cash in the desert (which our military still does), as a single program this is the largest waste of money in the history of the world.