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@earl-of-trumps said
You know that Turkey, if they wanted to curry favor with the US, would have bought
the American Patriot missile when the US *asked* them to. The US were trying to
make a deal - a deal, btw, that included Turkey remaining in the F-35 program.

So maybe, Turkey simply likes the F-35 as well as the S-400. I know they are not
too happy with the US so I don't know about this "currying favor" stuff.
Etymology - Originally from a French poem Roman de Fauvel, written in the early 1300s; Fauvel was a conniving stallion, and the play was a satire on the corruption of social life. The name Fauvel points to the French fauve ('chestnut, reddish-yellow, or fawn' ), another sense of fauve meaning the class of wild animals whose coats are at least partly brown, and the medieval belief that a fallow horse was a symbol of deceit and dishonesty. The phrase curry Fauvel, then, referred to currying (or combing) the horse, and was turned by later speakers into curry favor.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/curry_favor

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b'jeeeezus, talk about a shafting.

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@kmax87 said
What's a Russian boyfriend like, or for that matter a Chinese boyfriend?
https://www.dw.com/en/how-unconditional-is-chinas-foreign-aid/a-43499703

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Whats the timeline, in the cycle of acquiring F-16s that Pakistan decided on a show and tell to China?

Did that happen early on after initial purchase and the US response was to jerk them around by taking their money with no delivery, or was the show and tell as a consequence of being jerked around in the first place?

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@kmax87 said
Whats the timeline, in the cycle of acquiring F-16s that Pakistan decided on a show and tell to China?

Did that happen early on after initial purchase and the US response was to jerk them around by taking their money with no delivery, or was the show and tell as a consequence of being jerked around in the first place?
Pakistan violated the terms of the contract which involved not going nuclear so the US suspended the rest of Pakistan's order and refunded the money.

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@Duchess64 -
Pakistan paid $658 million (in currency) to the USA in the 1980s.
The USA refunded $464 million ('mostly in cash' ) many years later.
I wish that I could get paid $658 million on similar terms.




Duchess, it appears that Pakistan received some of the order so they would not be entitled to a full refund

to wit: Pakistan received $464 million, mostly in cash, which was the remaining amount of the claim."

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Btw, does anyone think that India got the same treatment that Pakistan did when it comes to having the bomb?

The U.S. Senate has passed a legislative provision which was contained in the National Defense Authorisation Act(NDAA) for the fiscal year 2020, that brings India at par with America’s NATO allies and countries like Israel and South Korea for increasing defence cooperation. Once it’s passed, India will be given Nato ally like status.

------------------------------------ https://journalsofindia.com/nato-ally-like-status-to-india/

And this teaches us exactly - what...? "Hindu good, Muslim bad"

Uh huh.

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I just found out the USA is still making tanks.

Can someone remind me, since we're on the topic, why we need manned F-35 fighter jets in the first place? Earlier in the thread, it was suggested that they might be needed to protect an aircraft carrier. But then the point of the aircraft carrier is...?

Drones, nuclear weaponry, computer hackers seem to be the wave of the foreseeable future here. When can fighter jet military tech go the way of the trubuchet?

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