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Has Biden taken us closer to nuclear war?

Has Biden taken us closer to nuclear war?

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@Cliff-Mashburn said
Whatever happens before Trump takes office.....
It will be called all Trump's fault.
What kind of a dumb ass county has almost two months before the new president takes the job anyway?

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@divegeester said
Wrong. The agreement is ancient and now worthless.

And grow up.

And 😆
Should age play a role in the validity of a contract?

So why do the English still harp on about the "Magna Carta"?

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@A-Unique-Nickname said
What kind of a dumb ass county has almost two months before the new president takes the job anyway?
Indeed. When an employee is fired he is escorted to the door immediately by security, for good reason.

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@divegeester said
Instead let’s waste countless billions for another 1000 days and achieve nothing.

What’s the endgame?
There is none. The ideal situation for weapons manufacturers in the US, and the politicians in their pocket, and our Russia hating State Dept, is an endless conflict where the money keeps flowing, Russia is weakened but never defeated, and only meaningless Ukrainian and Russian lives are lost.

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@Ponderable said
Should age play a role in the validity of a contract?
Some people consider 2009 to be 'Ancient History'. 😆

2009 Joint Declaration by Russia and the United States

Russia and the United States released a joint statement in 2009 confirming that the security assurances made in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum would still be valid after START expired in 2009.

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@Sleepyguy said
There is none. The ideal situation for weapons manufacturers in the US, and the politicians in their pocket, and our Russia hating State Dept, is an endless conflict where the money keeps flowing, Russia is weakened but never defeated, and only meaningless Ukrainian and Russian lives are lost.
Yeah. Imagine Russia restraining its sovereignty to ... just Russia. What a hellscape that would be. 😆

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That would be like the United States governing just ... the United States. Or China governing... just China. Or Slovakia governing... just Slovakia.

It's crazy, man. Bananas.
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@divegeester said
Here you go…

Biden WANTS Putin to use a nuke, he wants it so bad. You can see it. A blind person must be able to see it.

Biden wants Putin to react so strongly such that the West, including Trump, cannot pull back.

The man is a warmonger.
Anything to possibly interfere with/prevent Trump getting back into office. They don/'t want to be investigated.

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@divegeester said
Here you go…

Biden WANTS Putin to use a nuke, he wants it so bad. You can see it. A blind person must be able to see it.

Biden wants Putin to react so strongly such that the West, including Trump, cannot pull back.

The man is a warmonger.
Had to check; thought it was Metal Brain with such a hysterical overreaction.

Allowing US made missiles to hit military targets a couple of hundred miles inside Russia and supplying Ukraine with land mines are hardly measures likely to trigger a nuclear conflagration.

They are attempts by the US to enhance Ukraine's bargaining position before Trump pulls the rug out from under them. After that, we'll see whether the Euros want to pick up the slack.

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@no1marauder said
Had to check; thought it was Metal Brain with such a hysterical overreaction.

Allowing US made missiles to hit military targets a couple of hundred miles inside Russia and supplying Ukraine with land mines are hardly measures likely to trigger a nuclear conflagration.

They are attempts by the US to enhance Ukraine's bargaining position before Trump pulls the rug out from under them. After that, we'll see whether the Euros want to pick up the slack.
Gosh I feel so much better after that reassurance.

Let’s hope the staff being pulled from the US embassy in Kiev feel the same; perhaps you should write to them quoting your post.

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@Ponderable said
Should age play a role in the validity of a contract?

So why do the English still harp on about the "Magna Carta"?
Yes it should.

Kind of irrelevant when we are over a 1000 days into supporting an unwinable war, and way to go missing the point of the OP.

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@shavixmir said
The West wants to drain Russia’s resources.
Basically warning Russia and China that any form of expansion will drain the treasury.

As I’ve stated earlier in this thread, trump is going to force Ukraine to make a peace deal and Russia will be allowed to keep the land they’ve already invaded (that’s his plan anyways).
So, Biden wants to minimise the impact on Ukraine of such a decision.
Ukraine aren’t part of NATO
China, Korea, Iran and others are supporting Russia.
Russian resources aren’t going to be depleted.

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UK government has just announced defence spending cuts.

Not sure how that squares with the Reverend Starmer’s statement that “we” (whoever we is) need to “double down on support of Ukraine.

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-to-scrap-warships-military-helicopters-and-fleet-of-drones-to-save-money-despite-threats-abroad-13257285

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Let’s spend billions billions on mental net zero madness and cut defence.

You could not make this up.

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@divegeester said
Ukraine aren’t part of NATO
China, Korea, Iran and others are supporting Russia.
Russian resources aren’t going to be depleted.
I know they’re not part of NATO.

You do realise that Putin is a cracker, don’t you?
Now, I personally don’t think we should be waging a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine; to be honest, the Ukranian regime is not my cup of tea. I’ve made this clear from start.

And Russia has no end game which is going to end well for them, I’ve pointed this out multiple times since their invasion as well.

However, there are arguments to be made in stopping Putin’s expansion, and making China think twice about attacking Taiwan.

And draining their resources is a serious way of hemming them in.
How many Russian troops have died so far? 500.000 - 800.000. That’s half a generation you’re talking about. How many will be traumatised. Already troops returning from combat are beating up their partners due to PTSD.
How much ammunition has been used, how much armor destroyed?

These are the things that matter.
Russia, no matter how succesful they are in capturing land, is not going to invade anyone else for the foreseeable future. Way too costly.
And that’s basically neutering Putin’s expansion drift.

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