@vivify saidBecause the people who follow Trump abdicate their responsibility and their own decision-making in favor of being told what to do and how to think. It's lazy, but they don't have to do anything. They make up all kinds of excuses for him and deny he's done anything wrong. They give up their autonomy and give him cover. It's disgusting.
Great words from Bill Maher:
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Bolsonaro, a populist called the "Trump of the Tropics" had an eerily similar Jan-6th style uprising. But he became a pariah who had to flee his country....unlike Trump who's bigger now than he ever was.
@vivify saidI heard they jailed his political opponent to keep him from running and later let him go because they didn't want the so called insurrectionist in power.
Great words from Bill Maher:
[youtube]T351HLKLeqc?si=DK8nx6-jlIltIuIo[/youtube]
Bolsonaro, a populist called the "Trump of the Tropics" had an eerily similar Jan-6th style uprising. But he became a pariah who had to flee his country....unlike Trump who's bigger now than he ever was.
https://www.npr.org/2022/10/31/1132864499/brazil-lula-presidential-election-bolsonaro
You need to look into why Lula was imprisoned in the first place. Then you might have an informed opinion on this matter. And he was in self imposed exile. Do you know where? The USA. He went back to Brazil.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/brazilian-former-president-bolsonaro-returns-from-florida-exile-ab7e0076
https://thegrayzone.com/2020/03/30/brazil-lula-maduro-guaido-us-blockade/
@metal-brain saidBolsonaro fled while he was still president which shielded him from prosecution.
You need to look into why Lula was imprisoned in the first place. Then you might have an informed opinion on this matter. And he was in self imposed exile. Do you know where? The USA. He went back to Brazil.
That "self imposed" exile was to avoid prison. Follow your own advice about having an "informed opinion".
@metal-brain saidAnd his home has since been subject to two police raids. He now faces charges including embezzlement and spying.
But he returned to Brazil.
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@metal-brain saidBrazil's government punished the insurrectionist president and suspended him from holding office. The U.S. Senate let ours slide.
@vivify
Lula was released from prison on corruption charges so he could run against Bolsonaro, so what is your point? Brazil is notoriously corrupt.
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/479169-brazilian-prosecutors-charge-american-journalist-glenn-greenwald-with/
That's the point.
@metal-brain saidWhy give someone who abused his power to commit insurrection another chance to hold that office?
And you agree with banning Bolsonaro from holding office? What is wrong with letting the people decide when they vote?
Should a judge who took bribes to let criminals go free still be allowed to be judge? Or should that be put to a vote?
@vivify saidIs the insurrection accusation undisputed?
Why give someone who abused his power to commit insurrection another chance to hold that office?
Should a judge who took bribes to let criminals go free still be allowed to be judge? Or should that be put to a vote?
Is about half the country divided on it?
@metal-brain saidBrazil's Supreme Court convicted him. Is there any legitimate reason to doubt their decision?
Is the insurrection accusation undisputed?
Is about half the country divided on it?
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@vivify saidRussia's Supreme Court banned Alexei Navalny from running. Is there any legitimate reason to doubt their decision?
Brazil's Supreme Court convicted him. Is there any legitimate reason to doubt their decision?
https://apnews.com/article/europe-russia-laws-government-and-politics-1ba4f28c2436a5e44396f3d96eb9812d
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@metal-brain saidYes because Russia is run by a murderous dictator.
Russia's Supreme Court banned Alexei Navalny from running. Is there any legitimate reason to doubt their decision?
https://apnews.com/article/europe-russia-laws-government-and-politics-1ba4f28c2436a5e44396f3d96eb9812d
Is there any reason to doubt Brazil's decision?