I wonder if there are homosexual virgins?

Originally posted by Thequ1ck
My first sexual act was with a gay man and it wasn't
intended.

There are consequences.

First - I don't care.

And second - your response had nothing to do with what I posted.

Originally posted by stocken
I saw a short documentary on Swedish television a while back about a
homosexual Christian priest (I think he was). He openly admitted to
fantasising about sex with other men, but at the same time, since the
bible apparently says thou shalt not fornicate, and certainly not with
members of the same sex, he has never allowed himself to act on those
fa ...[text shortened]... like homosexuals, this gay guy
must be one of God's most precious creations.

Somehow. 😕

I saw a thread in these forums a while back about a heterosexual atheist chessplayer (I think he was). He openly admitted to rape fantasies, but at the same, since he respected women and didn't wish to hurt them, he has never allowed himself to act on those fantasies.

What struck me as a bit odd* is that he seemed perfectly fine with it, happy even. Not to be a rapist somehow made him feel strong, and I gotta say that if God does exist and doesn't like rapists, this guy must be one of God's most precious creations.

Somehow. 😕



*: Okay, not really 🙂

Originally posted by Nordlys
I saw a thread in these forums a while back about a heterosexual atheist chessplayer (I think he was). He openly admitted to rape fantasies, but at the same, since he respected women and didn't wish to hurt them, he has never allowed himself to act on those fantasies.

What struck me as a bit odd* is that he seemed perfectly fine with it, happy even. Not t ...[text shortened]... uy must be one of God's most precious creations.

Somehow. 😕



*: Okay, not really 🙂

😵 HA HA HA HA HA...

But there's a difference (I think). If I acted on those fantasies I would
actually hurt other people, possibly traumatise them for a long, long time.
Acting on being gay is not the same at all, but quite harmless. Wouldn't you
agree?

Though I respect his beliefs (that homosexual acts are bad) I still don't get
why that is. So, to me, that's a bit odd. 🙂

Originally posted by Hand of Hecate
You're so tough... do you work out? Do you like soap on a rope? I've always been partial to Irish Spring myself. Are you a red head?

hey people,
hand of hecate is not satisfied with open comments in the debate forum so he sent me this message, which i would like to share.
what do people think about it?

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Surely we can find a nice Catholic Church somewhere in the middle.

>Can you make barn yard sound such as moo, baah and oink, oink, oink?
Do you have cheerleading experience?
Do you have a pretty mouth?
How do you feel about fisting?

Originally posted by eamon o
hey people,
hand of hecate is not satisfied with open comments in the debate forum so he sent me this message, which i would like to share.
what do people think about it?

If he sent it in a Personal message, that's what it is. Keep it there. If
you don't like him sending you messages, put him on your ignore list. 😠

Originally posted by stocken
I saw a short documentary on Swedish television a while back about a
homosexual Christian priest (I think he was). He openly admitted to
fantasising about sex with other men, but at the same time, since the
bible apparently says thou shalt not fornicate, and certainly not with
members of the same sex, he has never allowed himself to act on those
fa ...[text shortened]... like homosexuals, this gay guy
must be one of God's most precious creations.

Somehow. 😕

Either that or he is in serious need of some rump ranging...

Originally posted by eamon o
hey people,
hand of hecate is not satisfied with open comments in the debate forum so he sent me this message, which i would like to share.
what do people think about it?

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Surely we can find a nice Catholic Church somewhere in the middle.

>Can you make barn yard sound s ...[text shortened]... you have cheerleading experience?
Do you have a pretty mouth?
How do you feel about fisting?

Oh my! I wasn't even aware you were gay.

TheSkipper

Originally posted by ivanhoe
God does exist and loves homosexual people. God loves the homosexual, but rejects the homosexual act.

God looks with approval on those who do His will and keep His commandments.

These commandments are not given by God to restrict our freedom, as so many like to present them, but they show us the way to true freedom, true happiness and genuine peace.

If this is your 'argument' against homosexuality (I say 'if' pretending that there might be more
to your argument...what a laugh!), then by all means, make homosexuality a sin and prohibited
within the Church.

Keep your opinions and theologically-based arguments out of the public sphere, as there are many
people who believe that homosexual unions are just as blessed, sacred and holy as heterosexual
ones.

Nemesio

Keep your opinions and theologically-based arguments out of the public sphere, as there are many
people who believe that homosexual unions are just as blessed, sacred and holy as heterosexual
ones.

Nemesio[/b]

excuse me for butting-in to this one, you should not seek to prevent people from expressing their opinion, that is a fascist approach.

Originally posted by Nemesio
If this is your 'argument' against homosexuality (I say 'if' pretending that there might be more
to your argument...what a laugh!), then by all means, make homosexuality a sin and prohibited
within the Church.

Keep your opinions and theologically-based arguments out of the public sphere, as there are many
people who believe that homosexual unions are just as blessed, sacred and holy as heterosexual
ones.

Nemesio

Nemesio: "If this is your 'argument' against homosexuality ..... "

It was not meant as an "argument" against homosexuality.

Nemesio: " ..... make homosexuality a sin and prohibited
within the Church.

Being homosexual is not a sin, performing the homosexual act however is.

How can a universal truth be confined to a certain part of this universum ?

Nemesio: "Keep your opinions and theologically-based arguments out of the public sphere, .... "

This is an extremely intolerant attitude. It is an example of how an ideology, neo-liberalism, which claims to advocate freedom for all is in reality aiming at restricting the freedoms of those not adhering to that ideology.

Nemesio: " ..... as there are many
people who believe that homosexual unions are just as blessed, sacred and holy as heterosexual ones."

Does your banning from the public to the private sphere also apply to the above expressed opinion ?

A friendship between two men or two women can indeed be "blessed, sacred and holy", but only the friendship, not the eventual homosexual acts performed in the context of this relationship. Sins are never blessed by the Lord. Sins can never be holy or sacred. It is turning the world upside down.

Calling evil good and good evil, as you do, doesn't solve anything and will not make people truly happy. On the contrary, it will obfuscate the moral truth even more and will in the end produce more unhappiness and sadness for everybody involved instead of eliminating it.

Originally posted by stocken
If he sent it in a [b]Personal message, that's what it is. Keep it there. If
you don't like him sending you messages, put him on your ignore list. 😠[/b]

disappointed to hear you approve of that, overestimated you i guess

Originally posted by eamon o
disappointed to hear you approve of that, overestimated you i guess

Who said I approved of it? I said, if it was sent to you as a personal
message, you should treat it as such. Don't like it, ignore it. Now, go
overestimate someone else. 😠

Originally posted by stocken
😵 HA HA HA HA HA...

But there's a difference (I think). If I acted on those fantasies I would
actually hurt other people, possibly traumatise them for a long, long time.
Acting on being gay is not the same at all, but quite harmless. Wouldn't you
agree?

Though I respect his beliefs (that homosexual acts are bad) I still don't get
why that is. So, to me, that's a bit odd. 🙂

I find the belief of some (maybe most) Christians that homosexual acts are bad (as well as the belief of many Christians that homosexuality in itself is bad, a view which that priest apparently doesn't subscribe to) a bit odd, too. But your post sounded like you found it odd that he was happy with his abstinent life, and that's something I don't find odd at all. I believe that it can bring people much gratification to voluntarily abstain from something they would like to do, or to voluntarily do something they find difficult or repulsive. I don't think the reason for your abstinence matters very much for the gratification it gives you. If I'd decide not to eat chocolate, and I'd manage to do so, I'd feel good because I'd feel that I am in control of my own life, and because I'd have mastered a challenge. I would feel that way no matter whether I had stopped to eat chocolate for health reasons, because I believed in an anti-chocolate god or because I just wanted to see if I could do it.

Originally posted by MikeBruce
I wonder if there is such thing as a homosexual couple that are virgins and they really respect each other and want to wait?

Jesus. Let's hope not!
There's enough of those whackos in the religious world!

Originally posted by eamon o
excuse me for butting-in to this one, you should not seek to prevent people from expressing their opinion, that is a fascist approach.

I totally support Ivanhoe's right to express his opinion. However, I
am totally opposed to his opinion's becoming an imposition within the
public sphere.

Sorry if I was not clear. He can blather on all he wants (and so will I).
What is impermissible is for him to insist that people accept his blathering
as substantial.

Nemesio