02 Feb 07
Originally posted by MikeBruceTo be more precise, I suspect you mean "all the openly gay guys I have worked with.....".
All the gay guys I have worked with (restaurant business) are all sex crazy and thats all they talk about.
There will be plenty of other people you've worked with who are gay or lesbian and you just don't know it.
Just as there are straight people who never shut up about their sex life (real or imagined), so there are gay people who do the same.
Just because these are the only people you're aware of who are gay, doesn't mean that they are the only people who are gay.
02 Feb 07
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Originally posted by RedmikeCome on RM, let's be honest. Gays are more prone to
To be more precise, I suspect you mean "all the [b]openly gay guys I have worked with.....".
There will be plenty of other people you've worked with who are gay or lesbian and you just don't know it.
Just as there are straight people who never shut up about their sex life (real or imagined), so there are gay people who do the same.
Just because ...[text shortened]... eople you're aware of who are gay, doesn't mean that they are the only people who are gay.[/b]
promiscuity and sexual abandon than most.
The real question is, what does it mean?
02 Feb 07
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Originally posted by RedmikeWhat the hell do you know about it?
What he said.
If homosexuality is about the freedom of choice, I'm here
to tell you that in some cases that very choice is taken from people
by anothers lust.
I'm not homophobic, quite the contrary, I'm not frightened to say
this is a persons choice, they are free to be what they want
BUT there are consequences.
So go on RM, why don't you tell me about it? a*****e
02 Feb 07
Originally posted by Thequ1ckI can easily imagine that you associate the term gay people with a very
Thanks for the opinion link.
specific subset of homosexuals that seem oversensitive, a bit on the
feminine side and very outspoken about their sexual relationships. Just
because you hear ten individuals a lot, doesn't mean they represent the
remaining two hundred individuals in every single aspect. The only
common factor among all homosexuals that we can safely assume, is
that they're all only attracted (sexually) to people of the same sex.
Anything else is speculation (and prejudice if spoken as a definite truth),
and you need to back it up with some real statistics.
It's just common sense that you can't expect all (or even most)
homosexuals to be a certain way just because of their sexual inclination.
I'd say it's even stupid to make such a claim without at least making a
general poll among actual homo and heterosexuals.
02 Feb 07
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Originally posted by stockenEuch! I hope you appreciate this, do you know how many sanctimonious church renditions I had to trawl through?!
I can easily imagine that you associate the term gay people with a very
specific subset of homosexuals that seem oversensitive, a bit on the
feminine side and very outspoken about their sexual relationships. Just
because you hear ten individuals a lot, doesn't mean they represent the
remaining two hundred individuals in every single aspect. The only claim without at least making a
general poll among actual homo and heterosexuals.
Promiscuity: Repression and Freedom
The urge for indulging in promiscuous behavior may be higher among heterosexual men than is manifested in any society, because the taboo of promiscuity limits the available opportunities. Many of our ethics and morals stem from the biological imperative of reproducing and surviving as a species. Since human children need the most nurturing from elders and take the longest time to reach adulthood among all animals, a family man faces selection pressure (however indirectly) to stay faithful to his wife. This pressure manifests itself as social sanction against promiscuity. The widespread social disapproval of promiscuity can limit the pool of a man's potential sexual partners, severely constraining him from translating his urge for promiscuity into promiscuous behavior. Net effect: lower observed (measured) level of promiscuous behavior in a population.
Gay men do not face any comparable evolutionary pressure. Homosexuality was considered a perversion or psychological disorder until recent times, and is still taboo or punishable or looked disfavorably upon in less developed societies. When homosexuality is seen as a perversion, homosexual promiscuity is seen by mainstream society merely as an addendum with little additional evil value. Of the two 'vices' of homosexuality and promiscuity, homosexuality is clearly the much greater vice, the more repugnant evil.
Attitudes such as these are thankfully on the retreat in the developed world, but one of their unwitting legacies has been the continuing lack of social sanction against gay promiscuity. I'm not arguing that mainstream society should proscribe homosexual promiscuity (I believe it should not), but merely that it does not. Net effect: The absence of social pressure confers greater freedom upon gays to act upon their promiscuous urges leading to a higher observed level of promiscuity.
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~ninad/gay/GayPromiscuity.htm
02 Feb 07
Originally posted by Thequ1ckTouchy!
What the hell do you know about it?
If homosexuality is about the freedom of choice, I'm here
to tell you that in some cases that very choice is taken from people
by anothers lust.
I'm not homophobic, quite the contrary, I'm not frightened to say
this is a persons choice, they are free to be what they want
BUT there are consequences.
So go on RM, why don't you tell me about it? a*****e
You think you can posted your bigotry here and not expect it to be challenged?
02 Feb 07
Originally posted by Thequ1ckYou missed a bit: "Since actual data about promiscuity among heterosexuals and gays are lacking, we are currently unable to definitively accept or reject the rampant gay promiscuity hypothesis".
Euch! I hope you appreciate this, do you know how many sanctimonious church renditions I had to trawl through?!
Promiscuity: Repression and Freedom
The urge for indulging in promiscuous behavior may be higher among heterosexual men than is manifested in any society, because the taboo of promiscuity limits the available opportunities. Many of our ethic ...[text shortened]... igher observed level of promiscuity.
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~ninad/gay/GayPromiscuity.htm
The article gives theoretical reasons why such a sterotype might actually happen.
It gives no evidence to support whether it happens, and the author acknowledges this.
02 Feb 07
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Originally posted by RedmikeYes, there is no trustworthy empirical data to substantiate my claims.
You missed a bit: "Since actual data about promiscuity among heterosexuals and gays are lacking, we are currently unable to definitively accept or reject the rampant gay promiscuity hypothesis".
The article gives theoretical reasons why such a sterotype might actually happen.
It gives no evidence to support [b]whether it happens, and the author acknowledges this.[/b]
Strangely though, my claims are made from having intimate friendship
with homosexual males.
I've provided you with a hypothesis as to why I've made my claim,
why don't you provide me with a counter?
Even better, why don't you show me a gay male that claims otherwise?