@averagejoe1 saidBiden is about as socialist as you are an intellectual Martian.
Moon, you answered this in 90 seconds, which means you did not check the link, which thusly means you know you are wrong. Mark another win for AJoe.
https://www.independentsentinel.com/moderate-joe-biden-is-just-as-much-a-socialist-as-crazy-bernie/
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SO, check this out. I don't know why I bother. Independent Sentinel. Your senior citizen is a socialist. You know, ...[text shortened]... Do liberals understand what fracking is all about? Better be careful what you and Kamal wish for.
21 Aug 20
@shavixmir saidOops !!
Biden is about as socialist as you are an intellectual Martian.
Leave the Martians out of this. 😲
21 Aug 20
The post that was quoted here has been removed"USA's invasion and conquest". What in the world would you folks want us to do today, exactly? Is it worth a post? What about taking the major part of today's USA away from the Arapahoe and Sioux, et al? What would you have us do?? What a bunch of air.
21 Aug 20
@shavixmir saidIf one asks Biden if he is pushing socialist agendas (thus being a socialist), do you think he would say Yes, or do you think he would say No?
Biden is about as socialist as you are an intellectual Martian.
22 Aug 20
@averagejoe1 saidI couldn’t care less what he said.
If one asks Biden if he is pushing socialist agendas (thus being a socialist), do you think he would say Yes, or do you think he would say No?
As a socialist, I’m telling you he is not a socialist. The man is a capitalist.
His agenda is capitalist and even though there are some social elements in it, it’s far from socialist.
Or do you seriously think he’s going to nationalise gas, water, electricity and the infrastructure and bolster the trade unions?
Do you think he’s going to impliment worker’s councils in every company with more than 50 employees?
Don’t be stoopid. Don’t be a trump.
22 Aug 20
@averagejoe1 saidA few comments on the article you cited:
Howdy Moonbus. How bout tell us in which of the 'several countries' it has been tried. But before you get lost in the weeds giving us nothing to understand or disseminate, please note this article from the Heritage Foundation, linked below. The second sentence says "Socialism has failed in every country in which it has been tried". I am not going to take my impt ti ...[text shortened]... s. https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/three-nations-tried-socialism-and-rejected-it
1. The Heritage Foundation, whose ideology is based on the policies of Ronald Reagan, has a right-wing bias which does not want to find successful examples of socialism. The Heritage Foundation, as advisors to conservative presidents, has a political agenda which consists in ensuring that the socialist experiment is never tried in the America, so they look only at examples of failed socialist states or states which voluntarily abandoned socialism.
2a. The article cites only four (or five) examples of so-called socialist states which either failed or abandoned socialism: Israel, India, the UK, the Soviet block and China, and concludes that "socialism has failed in every country in which it has been tried." This is a wildly exagerated generalization which does not follow from the few instances cited. There are more socialist states than those mentioned, and in some cases socialism neither failed nor was it completely abandoned--in some cases it has been successfully integrated into a modified form of highly regulated capitalism, as in Denmark, for example.
2b. Arguably, the article is actually based on only three instances, since China and the Soviet Union were not socialist, but communist, which is different.
3. States, including capitalist ones, fail for many and complex resasons. It is wrong to assume that failed socialist states failed simply because they were socialist, without regard for other political, historical, geographic, and demographic reasons. I refer you to a massive and well-researched study: "Why Nations Fail", by Acemoglu & Robinson, 500 pages w/index and bibliography, for a more balanced, less biased, view than that of the Heritage Foundation.
4. Don't worry: you don't have to try to prove that socialism cannot work anywhere; the USA will never try it anyway. Vested interests will ensure that the experiment never gets off the ground there.
22 Aug 20
@averagejoe1 saidI am sure that Biden would say, "I'm pushing an American agenda. Trump is pushing a Trump agenda."
If one asks Biden if he is pushing socialist agendas (thus being a socialist), do you think he would say Yes, or do you think he would say No?
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@averagejoe1 saidin the uk your democrats would be called conservatives and your republicans would be called facists, you aint got a clue what socialism is all about.
Youre right, no need. Strange to think what posting fodder will be, starting nov 4. I won’t have to hear how Obama is responsible for all the good, and you will not have to hear me list 100+ accomplishments of President Trump. (If Trump is president, I will have a lot more to tell you about than that old corny list. )Thank you Jesus.
I think God will indeed be pun ...[text shortened]... at Socialism has never worked in any country. Do you think it’s a good idea for us to give it a try?
22 Aug 20
@badradger saidIf a country's two major political parties were fascists on one side and socialists on the other, there would be blood in the streets.
in the uk your democrats would be called conservatives and your republicans would be called facists, you aint got a clue what socialism is all about.
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Interesting article on the bbc about trump's Tulsa rally. Has a background view on what took place.
bbc.co.uk/news/extra/58ewrgxuao
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22 Aug 20
@suzianne saidthe point i was trying to make is reps are more right wing than our cons and your dems are further right than our labour party ( labour under corbyn would have been the furthest to the left) if it had gained power.
If a country's two major political parties were fascists on one side and socialists on the other, there would be blood in the streets.
22 Aug 20
@averagejoe1 saidWhat is your position on those questions?
"USA's invasion and conquest". What in the world would you folks want us to do today, exactly? Is it worth a post? What about taking the major part of today's USA away from the Arapahoe and Sioux, et al? What would you have us do?? What a bunch of air.
Perhaps we can have an interesting debate if you have opinions.