@averagejoe1 saidWealth redistribution has already happened at a staggering scale.
How can he be a fascist and me be a fascist too? You libs messin' with us conservatives,,,??
Why be confusing in this limited arena? We already have our hands full, can you imagine conversing with Sonhouse, for instance ?
I call it corporate welfare. Corporatism is fascism.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/11/biden-1point9-trillion-covid-relief-package-thursday-afternoon.html
90% of that went to the wealthy. They are the welfare pigs, not the poor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism
You are complaining about the poor getting money from the rich, but the rich are getting it from the poor much more often. The reason is simple. We live in a plutocracy. Wealth is trickling up. The wealthy ruling class rigged it to be that way.
05 Oct 22
@metal-brain saidMy post above PROVES Obama is a socialist,,,,,Ala, spread the wealth around. So, I will say it for you, "Yes, Joe, you are right, he is indeed a Socialist".
Wealth redistribution has already happened at a staggering scale.
I call it corporate welfare. Corporatism is fascism.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/11/biden-1point9-trillion-covid-relief-package-thursday-afternoon.html
90% of that went to the wealthy. They are the welfare pigs, not the poor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism
You are complaining about ...[text shortened]... We live in a plutocracy. Wealth is trickling up. The wealthy ruling class rigged it to be that way.
That out of the way, you bring extraneous comments about rich people who hire people who are not rich, but people who can become rich by emulating rich people. Why, I have seen it with my own eyes, if you get my drift. Meanwhile their employees raise their families, which would not be easy if they could not find those jobs. Why feign ignorance to that fact!!?!? You just can not let it go, that they have more money than we do. So F'n what.
A plutocracy is a country governed by the wealthy. You might start a thread on that one. Probably better than being governed by a government of socialists. We differ, man. I'll take the wealthy. Your problem is that you are jealous of their pie and moan about it, while ole AvJoe, et al make their own pies. Get up in the morning and go make a pie, wave at Shav lolling in the park as you go by. Hope you are not in the Nordic area, or at the end of the day, the govt will make you give him your earnings. Makes me sick.
@zahlanzi saidOh, did you answer a question with a question........because I nailed you with my comment, that Obama is a socialist, and proved it? This has been an especially easy bantering day, think I will turn in.
"Can you tell us how Obama can say he will spread the wealth around, but not be a socialist.?"
Can you tell us how Dick Cheney could say there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq even though there weren't? He lied, you doofus.
05 Oct 22
@averagejoe1 saidJoe Biden is a tool of corporatism and that makes him a fascist.
My post above PROVES Obama is a socialist,,,,,Ala, spread the wealth around. So, I will say it for you, "Yes, Joe, you are right, he is indeed a Socialist".
That out of the way, you bring extraneous comments about rich people who hire people who are not rich, but people who can become rich by emulating rich people. Why, I have seen it with my own eyes, if you get ...[text shortened]... rdic area, or at the end of the day, the govt will make you give him your earnings. Makes me sick.
You are an apologist for corporate welfare on a massive scale. Corporate welfare is fascism. You condone fascism. They stole the pie from the poor.
To MB, in answer to post just above
To understand, you are saying that I, being quite of the corporate school of thought, the Corp hierarchy, Corp world, am a fascist.? All of us in that world are.....fascists ? Would that extend all the way to my granny, whose retirement account is weighted 75% stocks of corporations?
Give us an answer we can banter about?
@AverageJoe1
What do you think about Musk caving in and going forward with the Twitter buy at 54.20 a share, about 45 billion worth, Ellison kicking in 13 bil and one other group coming in at 7 bil, leaves 20 odd bil for Musk to kick in. Why he want's twitter is another story.
@averagejoe1 saidCorporatism is fascism. Owning stock shares in corporations is not corporatism.
To MB, in answer to post just above
To understand, you are saying that I, being quite of the corporate school of thought, the Corp hierarchy, Corp world, am a fascist.? All of us in that world are.....fascists ? Would that extend all the way to my granny, whose retirement account is weighted 75% stocks of corporations?
Give us an answer we can banter about?
If wealth redistribution is a bad thing why did you condone that 1.9 trillion stimulus that was wealth redistribution on a massive scale? Is it okay when you steal from the poor to give to the rich? How much of that cut did you get?
05 Oct 22
@sonhouse saidI truly would like for us all to know the underlying point of your question. What do I think about a business deal? Is it above board and just another step in the building blocks of a successful businessman? Like the successful creep George Soros? The $ you mention is all relative , I guess. It would be like you or me spending a goodly portion of our money on something of a lark,,,,he seems a bit crazy to me, why buy something that stupid. Must be the new age that I just missed. The creepy social networking. I hope you have a piece of tape covering the camera on your computer.
@AverageJoe1
What do you think about Musk caving in and going forward with the Twitter buy at 54.20 a share, about 45 billion worth, Ellison kicking in 13 bil and one other group coming in at 7 bil, leaves 20 odd bil for Musk to kick in. Why he want's twitter is another story.
One thing we can ALL think is, how cool, he will have Twitter be totally free speech, none of that liberal control, that horrible censoring of conservative thought and all that that entails. What if he decided to limit any negative comments about Trump? You would be up in arms!!
@metal-brain saidCurious. Assuming you are right, what do you think would be the best course, 'for the people', to change things where there would be NO corporatism? Curious though, why don't you like it??Corporatism is a system that seeks social justice and equality among individuals, per my googling.
Corporatism is fascism. Owning stock shares in corporations is not corporatism.
If wealth redistribution is a bad thing why did you condone that 1.9 trillion stimulus that was wealth redistribution on a massive scale? Is it okay when you steal from the poor to give to the rich? How much of that cut did you get?
Where did you see where I condoned giving money to people? You got me mixed up with Metal Brain. Oh, you ARE MB! Uhh, you see what all that did, no one wants to work anymore, they want to live off the government. It was the beginning of the end, where you libs will try to let govt just be the Nanny. It will be hard for me to get as rich as Musk, but I'm trying!! At least I will have enough to be a Socialist, to dictate to the people living under socialism.
@averagejoe1 saidIf wealth redistribution is a bad thing why do you condone that 1.9 trillion stimulus that was wealth redistribution on a massive scale? Is it okay when you steal from the poor to give to the rich? Why are you not complaining about that?
Curious. Assuming you are right, what do you think would be the best course, 'for the people', to change things where there would be NO corporatism? Curious though, why don't you like it??Corporatism is a system that seeks social justice and equality among individuals, per my googling.
Where did you see where I condoned giving money to people? You got me mixed u ...[text shortened]... !! At least I will have enough to be a Socialist, to dictate to the people living under socialism.
05 Oct 22
@metal-brain saidI do not condone it, it is leading the American people into sloth.
If wealth redistribution is a bad thing why do you condone that 1.9 trillion stimulus that was wealth redistribution on a massive scale? Is it okay when you steal from the poor to give to the rich? Why are you not complaining about that?
Secondly I don’t know what you mean when you say the rich steal from the poor. I have never understood statements like that, when the rich give jobs to people, and the funny statements like Susie and who used to say they make money on the backs of others. I know you have some esoteric reason for saying those things, but they are not practical comments.
Why do you never comment on that phrase, ‘you never ask a poor man for a job’
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