It looks grim

@Suzianne said
It's all part of the con.

It's never actual values, it's who believes the con the most.

Would you vote "leave" today, or are you still conned into disbelieving the facts?

I would vote leave every day of the week.

There is no “con”, that is just typical liberal rhetoric when you have nothing else to say.

@Suzianne said
Clinton and Harris were unelectable because they are women

Clinton got more votes than Trump. She was not unelectable.

Keep in mind, regardless of what you think of Trump, he gets his base excited. Bernie was like that with his base; remember the "Bernie Bros"? No one was fired up about Hillary except for the idea of electing the first woman.

The way to beat Trump was fighting fire with fire. Instead, Dems fought fire by politely asking the flames to go away.

@vivify said
Look where voting to appease conservatives got us: a president who was old, feeble and an embarrassment to Dems.

Ask yourself: why is that Republicans get to vote for the most extreme president of all time but Dems still have to make concessions?

Who gives a damn if Bernie was too extreme for right-wingers. He was the best choice for president in decades. If Berne w ...[text shortened]... long-shot 3rd party candidate, maybe I'd agree. Dems just F-d up big time by not supporting Bernie.

You feel like I do about Harris.

I feel ya.

@divegeester said
You might not realise it, but you’re talking bollox again.

Madam, your slip is showing.

@divegeester said
I would vote leave every day of the week.

There is no “con”, that is just typical liberal rhetoric when you have nothing else to say.

Said the guy who still doesn't get it.

@Suzianne said
Said the guy who still doesn't get it.

Still doesn’t get what!

You are a terrible debater. Please try getting into facts and data as I’m not interested in the slightest in your whinnying about the end of the world.