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@vivify saidActually many vaccines are not recommended for babies/children. I think children start the vaccination process at age 2 and go up to 10, - polio, MMR, yellow fever and a several others.
You're correct.
One question: is there any other time vaccines *aren't* recommended for children old enough and healthy enough to get one?
If there isn't, then it seems vaccines are the way to go when indecisive.
i think what all doctors agree on is that the best solution to this Covid is the right diet, lifestyle and living area Eg - live in the tropics, open your windows, get in the sunlight, go to the beach, eat healthy, plant your own food, etc.
Like I said, vaccines are probably not the answer, and it works temporarily. The permanent solution is a change of lifestyle. Get the kids accustomed to it.
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@rajk999 saidI know; that's why I specifically said "old enough" and "healthy enough" to get them.
Actually many vaccines are not recommended for babies/children.
Among children old enough and healthy enough to get vaccines, has there ever been any other time where they were not recommended, like what Sh76 brought up with COVID? I doubt there has.
@vivify saidI dont know because enough research has not been done yet into whether or not children or anyone for that matter should be vaccinated. WHO still calls all these vaccines 'emergency use'. I personally would be careful with children, and err on the side of caution .. ie wait until more research is done, dont send them to school, keep away from crowds and malls, live and eat healthy etc.
I know; that's why I specifically said "old enough" and "healthy enough" to get them.
Among children old enough and healthy enough to get vaccines, has there ever been any other time where they were not recommended, like what Sh76 brought up with COVID? I doubt there has.
@rajk999 saidWait what? The best solution is for all of us to move to the tropics? That seems unpractical, given that the vaccine provides a much better solution. As mentioned in other threads 95+% of all hospitalized COVID patients are unvaccinated.
Actually many vaccines are not recommended for babies/children. I think children start the vaccination process at age 2 and go up to 10, - polio, MMR, yellow fever and a several others.
i think what all doctors agree on is that the best solution to this Covid is the right diet, lifestyle and living area Eg - live in the tropics, open your windows, get in the sunlight, g ...[text shortened]... works temporarily. The permanent solution is a change of lifestyle. Get the kids accustomed to it.
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@wildgrass saidMove to warmer areas, breezy open air areas in the countryside even it is cold. I take the view that natural solutions are almost always preferable to medicine, which should be a last resort. In this case medicine is being given priority and this can only be because that is the argument being promoted to facilitate big profits of vaccine manufacturers. Those who can will do the smart thing. Those who cannot will take the vaccine. Of course you can do both and avoid the long term vaccine dependency which is on the horizon .. ie take the vaccine for now and reorganise your lifestyle over the long term.
Wait what? The best solution is for all of us to move to the tropics? That seems unpractical, given that the vaccine provides a much better solution. As mentioned in other threads 95+% of all hospitalized COVID patients are unvaccinated.
@rajk999 saidScience is not Truth. Science is the search for Truth. You should be worried when the scientific community talks in absolutes about a new disease. As research into Covid and its variants progress, information and recommendations will change. That's good Science. You want absolutes, then depend on some holy book for your advice.
Doctors dont know everything especially about this Covid virus. The fart that they have been disagreeing from the very start should make you distrust them. Dont get complacent and lazy about you own welfare when people call themselves professionals. Sh76 is right to do his own research and make his own decisions.
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@phranny saidI know. They are guessing and that is not good if you going to take their suggested vaccinations. I was replying to a poster who said to trust the doctors. Im saying do some research and trust your own judgment and instinct.
Science is not Truth. Science is the search for Truth. You should be worried when the scientific community talks in absolutes about a new disease. As research into Covid and its variants progress, information and recommendations will change. That's good Science. You want absolutes, then depend on some holy book for your advice.
@rajk999 saidThere isn't enough room for all of us down there.
Move to warmer areas, breezy open air areas in the countryside even it is cold. I take the view that natural solutions are almost always preferable to medicine, which should be a last resort. In this case medicine is being given priority and this can only be because that is the argument being promoted to facilitate big profits of vaccine manufacturers. Those who can will do ...[text shortened]... h is on the horizon .. ie take the vaccine for now and reorganise your lifestyle over the long term.
We're dependent on lots of things in our modern society. I think vaccine dependency for life-threatening illness is fine. We've been doing it for 70 years.
@sh76 saidI thought a second dose had to be administered within a reasonably short period for maximum effectiveness.
I'm paralyzed with indecision right now. My son's second dose is scheduled for this week. It's not that I haven't done my research. It's that the people I trust are basically split 50-50 on this. The CDC says yes, but I'm not exactly enthralled with the CDC right now. If my son had COVID already, I'd certainly not get him a second dose. But, as far as I know, he never had it. He ...[text shortened]... ng recently that is persuasive one way or the other?
(Aside from general anti-vax stuff, please)
@wildgrass saidTHE THALIDOMIDE TRAGEDY: ... I posted a link about this story. Have a read and see what untested medicines can do. Coincidentally this drug caused blood clots in women which in turn created deformed children in pregnant women. Apparently AstraZenica is getting famous for creating blood clots as well. But these vaccines are not properly tested and everyone is too anxious to get it over with instead of the long panful process of full clinical trials and testing.
There isn't enough room for all of us down there.
We're dependent on lots of things in our modern society. I think vaccine dependency for life-threatening illness is fine. We've been doing it for 70 years.
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@rajk999 saidWrong. Scientists are not guessing. They are giving you the very best well researched information they have. As research continues, their recommendations may change.
I know. They are guessing and that is not good if you going to take their suggested vaccinations. I was replying to a poster who said to trust the doctors. Im saying do some research and trust your own judgment and instinct.
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@no1marauder saidI had to wait a *minimum* of 21 days before getting my second dose. I don't know why, but you can't can't get both doses too close together.
I thought a second dose had to be administered within a reasonably short period for maximum effectiveness.
@phranny saidThank you. As far as the public is concerned its called guessing. The bottom line is their knowledge cannot be relied upon. Its called trust. Hope you got the point.
Wrong. Scientists are not guessing. They are giving you the very best well researched information they have. As research continues. Their recommendations may change.