08 Aug 21
@rajk999 saidSo instead of trusting highly educated scientists, you are listening to advice from those who barely got through high school math and science courses. 🤔
Thank you. As far as the public is concerned its called guessing. The bottom line is their knowledge cannot be relied upon. Its called trust. Hope you got the point.
08 Aug 21
@phranny saidWho am I trusting that "..barely got through high school math and science courses." ?
So instead of trusting highly educated scientists, you are listening to advice from those who barely got through high school math and science courses. 🤔
You sound like a damn fool. Its time you shut up.
08 Aug 21
@sh76 saidIt's a tough call. Were it up to me, I'd err on the side of caution and get the child that 2nd shot.
Right. And what do you do when the doctors and professionals with years of training that do the medical research are basically split down the middle and there are compelling arguments on both sides?
@vivify saidThe original testing was done with a three-week gap between doses. However, we in Britain switched to a schedule of twelve weeks between doses (to try and maximise the number of people who got a first dose and therefore some protection). Later, the gap was reduced to eight weeks. Evidence so far seems to be that the longer gaps are actually better in terms of maximising protection... the trade off, obviously, being that waiting for longer to get the second jab means that you spend longer with only partial protection.
I had to wait a *minimum* of 21 days before getting my second dose. I don't know why, but you can't can't get both doses too close together.
My two cents' worth in answer to sh76's question - statistics show that protection against the now dominant Delta variant is quite weak after only one dose, and very much improved by the second one.
08 Aug 21
@sh76 saidThe vaccine isn’t at its most effective until 2 weeks after the second dose.
I'm paralyzed with indecision right now. My son's second dose is scheduled for this week. It's not that I haven't done my research. It's that the people I trust are basically split 50-50 on this. The CDC says yes, but I'm not exactly enthralled with the CDC right now. If my son had COVID already, I'd certainly not get him a second dose. But, as far as I know, he never had it. He ...[text shortened]... ng recently that is persuasive one way or the other?
(Aside from general anti-vax stuff, please)
@vivify saidThe idea that COVID was ever going to disappear from the Earth is and always was a pipe dream. Even if by some miracle the United States and the rest of the "First" world could have locked down hard enough to make COVID disappear (near impossible, but let's say), most of the world can't afford to lock down. You think the people in India and sub-Saharan Africa were ever going to live on Netflix, DoorDash and Zoom? They don't have the possibility of locking down. COVID was always going to exist in most of the world, which means the west was always susceptible to it.
It's unfortunate because COVID-19 had a realistic possibility of disappearing. Had the world united to adhere to lockdowns and mask requirements at the beginning, the novel corona virus could've been contained.
Now it's another headache humanity has deal with. Deaths from COVID will continue, just like how there are people who die each year from the flu.
Contagious respiratory diseases don't just disappear from the Earth unless wiped out by an effective vaccine.
08 Aug 21
@no1marauder saidI've heard speculation to that effect, but I know of no real testing done on that issue.
I thought a second dose had to be administered within a reasonably short period for maximum effectiveness.
08 Aug 21
@mchill saidErring on the side of caution is always a good idea.
It's a tough call. Were it up to me, I'd err on the side of caution and get the child that 2nd shot.
The question is which side is caution. If you're looking at the incidents of myocarditis after dose 2, possibly not getting a second dose is more cautious.
08 Aug 21
@sh76 saidThe CDC recommendation is:
I've heard speculation to that effect, but I know of no real testing done on that issue.
"You should get your second shot as close to the recommended 3-week or 4-week interval as possible. However, your second dose may be given up to 6 weeks (42 days) after the first dose, if necessary. "
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/second-shot.html
08 Aug 21
@sh76 saidThe answer is simple since you claim you did the research.
I'm paralyzed with indecision right now. My son's second dose is scheduled for this week. It's not that I haven't done my research. It's that the people I trust are basically split 50-50 on this. The CDC says yes, but I'm not exactly enthralled with the CDC right now. If my son had COVID already, I'd certainly not get him a second dose. But, as far as I know, he never had it. He ...[text shortened]... ng recently that is persuasive one way or the other?
(Aside from general anti-vax stuff, please)
How many children die from Covid and how many die from the gene vaccines?
If you really did do the research you already know the answer.
If you don't know the answer you didn't do enough research.
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09 Aug 21
@rajk999 saidThat's because the public, by and large, are ignorant about how science works and expect a magic bullet of perfection. As proven by you. Well, you're not getting one, because there is no such thing and never will be. Science doesn't work that way. But rejecting vaccines because not all doctors are in 100% agreement on everything about it - when they are 99% in agreement that getting vaccinated us better than not - is like being a Young Earth Creationist because taxonomists disagree about whether Neanderthals were a subspecies of modern humans or a separate, closely related species. It's dumb, and it's anti-scientific.
Thank you. As far as the public is concerned its called guessing. The bottom line is their knowledge cannot be relied upon. Its called trust. Hope you got the point.
09 Aug 21
@sh76 saidI’d say three weeks between jags is a very short time, if the option is there to get it later I’d wait to see if the infection rates in your corner of the world merit a second jag further down he road.
I'm paralyzed with indecision right now. My son's second dose is scheduled for this week. It's not that I haven't done my research. It's that the people I trust are basically split 50-50 on this. The CDC says yes, but I'm not exactly enthralled with the CDC right now. If my son had COVID already, I'd certainly not get him a second dose. But, as far as I know, he never had it. He ...[text shortened]... ng recently that is persuasive one way or the other?
(Aside from general anti-vax stuff, please)