26 Sep 21
@sonhouse saidMott's not enough of a fighter to be a Proud Boy
@Mott-The-Hoople
So when you join the Proud Boys, do you get an ID card with it, pay dues? Secret handshake?
26 Sep 21
@averagejoe1 saidSo it's not offensive to you, and so it shouldn't be offensive to anyone, including those it's referring to, is that about right?
Mott is correct. Neither of you get the big picture, knit-picking from one post to the other. Personally, I think you dont like the word squaw because if isn't a 'pretty' sounding name. Good point that papoose isn't pretty , either. Maybe if the name were 'Twillery Garden' you wouldn't get so hot under the collar, and you would quit continually changing definitions of ...[text shortened]... country', but no, you want to restructure this country, ruin it for everyone else. You are doing it.
So I guess the N-word isn't offensive because you're not black? Is that about right?
@sonhouse saidHe’s obviously an incel.
@Mott-The-Hoople
So when you join the Proud Boys, do you get an ID card with it, pay dues? Secret handshake?
27 Sep 21
@suzianne saidTo be honest, being European and all, I’m not exactly sure what actually is offensive about the word squaw.
How is this insane?
In Phoenix, there was a peak in the Phoenix Mountains Preserve by the name of Squaw Peak. Native Americans had tried to get the name changed many times, since yes, this is an offensive name. This was later changed to Piestewa Peak, to honor Lori Piestewa, the first Native American, a Hopi, to die in combat in the US military. It was utterly right an ...[text shortened]... en as much-needed as this was. In fact, you call it insanity. Most people call it just and proper.
I thought it just meant “female Indian”.
And Indian, to me, doesn’t offensive either. I mean, I’ve been to India, and that country is full of Indians, and nobody there thinks it offensive.
So, some Portuguese guy (I think he was Portuguese… but he could have been Italian… well, some say bifanas and some say pasta, it’s all bloody carbs to me) thought he was in a wrong continent and the name stuck. So what?
Seriously. What’s offensive about squaw? I’ve never heard of this being a thing before.
27 Sep 21
@shavixmir saidWell, I just googled it.
To be honest, being European and all, I’m not exactly sure what actually is offensive about the word squaw.
I thought it just meant “female Indian”.
And Indian, to me, doesn’t offensive either. I mean, I’ve been to India, and that country is full of Indians, and nobody there thinks it offensive.
So, some Portuguese guy (I think he was Portuguese… but he could have be ...[text shortened]... So what?
Seriously. What’s offensive about squaw? I’ve never heard of this being a thing before.
And… okay… that I did not know.
Oh well, learn something new every day.
27 Sep 21
@shavixmir saidTell us what you found. I was about to complement you on your first thread that you found it not offensive. It is not offensive, so what did you find to change your mind
Well, I just googled it.
And… okay… that I did not know.
Oh well, learn something new every day.
27 Sep 21
@suzianne saidThe name cracker has for a long time been assigned to white people. I am a white person and do not find being called a cracker to be offensive. You liberals are so thin skinned it is unbelievable
So it's not offensive to you, and so it shouldn't be offensive to anyone, including those it's referring to, is that about right?
So I guess the N-word isn't offensive because you're not black? Is that about right?
@averagejoe1 saidThe term isn’t used by native Americans at all as their word for “woman”.
Tell us what you found. I was about to complement you on your first thread that you found it not offensive. It is not offensive, so what did you find to change your mind
It started as a derogatory term about the indigenous people.
Words like squaw-husband to call someone a wussie. That sort of thing.
So, basically, it not like “young Indian woman”, but more like: “ditch bitch.”
So, yeah, as I said, I didn’t know. Now I do and yeah, I pretty much see why they don’t like it.
Sort of like Towel head, trailer-trash republican, that sort of thing.
28 Sep 21
@averagejoe1 saidI don't think cracker is offensive, either, but let's face it. Maybe if the word cracker was used for over a hundred years to refer to people whose ancestors were slaves and who until recently were counted as 3/5 of a person, perhaps you'd be a bit pissed when people of another race started calling you that to imply that you were less than them. Cracker doesn't have the history of hundreds of years of oppression.
The name cracker has for a long time been assigned to white people. I am a white person and do not find being called a cracker to be offensive. You liberals are so thin skinned it is unbelievable
Here's one for you: what about 'fag' or 'faggot'? Now I know you're not gay, but what if you were? Would 'faggot' be offensive to you?
28 Sep 21
@shavixmir saidThank you for looking it up.
The term isn’t used by native Americans at all as their word for “woman”.
It started as a derogatory term about the indigenous people.
Words like squaw-husband to call someone a wussie. That sort of thing.
So, basically, it not like “young Indian woman”, but more like: “ditch bitch.”
So, yeah, as I said, I didn’t know. Now I do and yeah, I pretty much see why they don’t like it.
Sort of like Towel head, trailer-trash republican, that sort of thing.
It's easy for people who have never been oppressed to just spit out words at someone else without thinking (or caring) how much words can hurt.
At least you did your research. That's many steps above the rest who don't think they're being offensive and can't be bothered to care who they offend. It's not them, after all.