@Metal-Brain
BULLSHTYE. Fauci was not even around Trump in JANUARY. You are one pathetic imitation of a real human. Crawl back into the puke laden hole you came from.
@metal-brain said"Trump was just listening to the experts"?
All of his advisors told him it was no big deal, including Fauci. Fauci deserves a lot of blame for it. Trump was just listening to the experts. Too bad they are incompetent people with conflicts of interest.
I mean: LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Really, you are an utterly amazing liar.
@no1marauder saidIn one country? Whatabouta other countries?
"Whataboutism"?
I could be like you and say "what is the source of your information" esp. since the data I already presented shows that civilian deaths per year in Afghanistan almost doubled under Trump.
But you are trying to change the subject, aren't you?
You can't just cherry pick certain countries and say that is proof. What about Libya? Iraq? Syria?
@no1marauder saidIt is true. Show me one expert that warned him early enough with a quote.
"Trump was just listening to the experts"?
I mean: LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Really, you are an utterly amazing liar.
@metal-brain saidWhich of those countries did Trump stop military operations in?
In one country? Whatabouta other countries?
You can't just cherry pick certain countries and say that is proof. What about Libya? Iraq? Syria?
Don't you want to talk about the Donald's "peaceful" foreign policy? How come the dodge?
@sonhouse saidI don't think you have your timeline right. Who said what and when? Prove what you are saying.
@Metal-Brain
BULLSHTYE. Fauci was not even around Trump in JANUARY. You are one pathetic imitation of a real human. Crawl back into the puke laden hole you came from.
@no1marauder saidI NEVER claimed Trump had a peaceful policy. I recently brought up Yemen. You know better. Stop attempting to digress.
Which of those countries did Trump stop military operations in?
Don't you want to talk about the Donald's "peaceful" foreign policy? How come the dodge?
Trump has a lower death count than Obama.
@metal-brain saidTrump been criticizing all his public health experts and fighting against their advice from almost the earliest days of the pandemic. That is a matter of public record.
It is true. Show me one expert that warned him early enough with a quote.
Some level of pandemic was always inevitable. But Trump's resistance to mitigation measures and encouragement to his political allies and rank and file supporters to ignore basic common sense medical advice like mask wearing, avoidance of "superspreader" events, fighting against virtually any type of lockdowns, etc. etc. etc. made the death toll much worse and the human suffering and economic damage longer and deeper.
@Metal-Brain
So you figure 314 THOUSAND dead from C19 is NOTHING, not his fault, even though you know good and well Trump downplayed the importance of C19 the first time he heard about it and now, totally silent on that even though YOU know he knew in January C19 was deadly AND airborne but said in public, it will soon go down to ZERO cases and kept up that routine ever since.
At least HALF of the deaths are directly on the hands of Trump.
@metal-brain saidMaybe he did, maybe he didn't. You've presented no evidence to support such a claim but Obama did have four extra years of bad foreign policy.
I NEVER claimed Trump had a peaceful policy. I recently brought up Yemen. You know better. Stop attempting to digress.
Trump has a lower death count than Obama.
The point is Trump has made the situation in the Middle East worse, not better, in the last four years. At least Obama had a plan to prevent Iranian nuclearization without regime change and threw some token opposition to Israeli's effective annexation of much of the West Bank. Trump policies were far worse and destabilizing.
@no1marauder saidhttps://www.cnn.com/2014/09/23/politics/countries-obama-bombed/index.html
Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. You've presented no evidence to support such a claim but Obama did have four extra years of bad foreign policy.
The point is Trump has made the situation in the Middle East worse, not better, in the last four years. At least Obama had a plan to prevent Iranian nuclearization without regime change and threw some token opposition to Israeli's effective annexation of much of the West Bank. Trump policies were far worse and destabilizing.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy
https://www.cnn.com/2015/12/04/politics/air-force-20000-bombs-missiles-isis/index.html
@Metal-Brain
Suck on THIS one TROLL:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/donald-trump-coronavirus-memos-warning-peter-navarro
There was no Fauci in the WH back then.
Your god king BLEW it BIGTIME.
A REAL POTUS would have IMMEDIATELY started a huge federal program with executive orders to tell say, toaster manufacturers to switch to PPE, ventilators and the like.
THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.
Instead Trump says, and I QUOTE: We are not the sales clerk to the country, meaning dump the states under the bus, do your own searches for PPE.
Which meant there was no federal coordination of ANYTHING Covid related.
AND besides that, he actively started SCREWING the states out of PPE they legally bought, FEMA ordered to CONFISCATE PPE from some states, strangely enough, just DEMOCRAT controlled states, no REPUB states were screwed with that way.
If you don't believe that, google it yourself, don't ask US to be your research agents.
You are extremely intellectually lazy and that is making the BEST case for you.
And the POTUS elect coming in already started that kind of national response, something your god king BASTIRD never did since he could care less how many died. He never said a single word to console the grieving parents and sons and daughters and such who lost loved ones to Covid, now nearing one third of a MILLION.
@sonhouse saidYou dork. That is a worst case scenario. Navarro did not warn him a worst case scenario was imminent. Nobody knew at the time.
@Metal-Brain
Suck on THIS one TROLL:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/donald-trump-coronavirus-memos-warning-peter-navarro
There was no Fauci in the WH back then.
Your god king BLEW it BIGTIME.
A REAL POTUS would have IMMEDIATELY started a huge federal program with executive orders to tell say, toaster manufacturers to switch to PPE, ventilators and the ...[text shortened]... ts and sons and daughters and such who lost loved ones to Covid, now nearing one third of a MILLION.
Fauci downplayed the risk publicly.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/515718-fauci-says-trump-did-not-distort-impact-of-covid-pandemic
@metal-brain saidNotice all of those articles predate Trump's administration, so they don't even support your "whataboutism" claim.
https://www.cnn.com/2014/09/23/politics/countries-obama-bombed/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy
https://www.cnn.com/2015/12/04/politics/air-force-20000-bombs-missiles-isis/index.html
@no1marauder saidRight back at you. You clearly didn't read this link I posted. This supports my claim and proves you wrong.
Notice all of those articles predate Trump's administration, so they don't even support your "whataboutism" claim.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/515718-fauci-says-trump-did-not-distort-impact-of-covid-pandemic