To climate control activists.....

@wajoma said
How much worse?
At what cost?

Millions of people already suffer and die from lack of energy, energy to cook, energy for hospitals, etc. In India they burn cow dung as fuel because they don't have access to cheap plentiful coal sourced electricity. Thankfully for humanity India continues to build coal powered generation.

You could save some valuable energy by unplugging ...[text shortened]... l the power cable too, because that's how millions live now, in need of cheap plentiful electricity.

Thumb up for Wajoma. Why do libs fight the obvious, esp when we weigh advantages vs disadvantages. It is like this one-inch fish called a snail darter being threatened by dam construction in Tennessee. Libs wanted to stop the dam to save this creature, ...so, I guess no electricity for the grannies down in the valley???
Why won't libs answer the question, BTW, of choosing between Taiwan and China? Are they mad at ME for some reason? It was a simple question.

@wajoma said
We will now run kmaxs post through a quantifying exercise, information versus gooblydegook.

The lifecycle cost of deploying renewable generated electricity makes new windmills and solar generation too expensive and not a market driven exercise but more an ideological one. Fossil fuel power generation makes too much economic sense to be ignored and that's where new (un-arti ...[text shortened]... joke. Hundreds of tonnes of toxic materials for panels and batteries for unreliable expensive power.

Wind and solar stuff requires thousands of acres of real estate. The most number of people served are in big cities, where there is NO available land. won't work.

@averagejoe1 said
Wind and solar stuff requires thousands of acres of real estate. The most number of people served are in big cities, where there is NO available land. won't work.

Just like farming/ producing/ mining any other dang resource.

@wildgrass said
We can't do anything about it just because it's been around a.long time? Imagine if this logic held for all other problems humanity has solved over the years.

Polio has been around for hundreds/ thousands of years. No sense pretending we can do anything about it?

Why should we do anything about natural climate change?
Why do you think a warmer climate is a bad thing? It is better than a colder climate.
What is the worst that can happen?

@averagejoe1 said
Wind and solar stuff requires thousands of acres of real estate. The most number of people served are in big cities, where there is NO available land. won't work.

Put them on the roof you fool

@athousandyoung said
Put them on the roof you fool

A roof full of solar panels is not enough to regularly power a single story house without back-up from good old reliable fossil fuel generated power, start going up a few storys fuggedaboutit.

And you're going to plug your electric car in there??? no wayyyyyy.

@wajoma said
A roof full of solar panels is not enough to regularly power a single story house without back-up from good old reliable fossil fuel generated power, start going up a few storys fuggedaboutit.

And you're going to plug your electric car in there??? no wayyyyyy.

No single story house is going to be powered by the fossil fuels found underneath the house either. Fossil fuel plants take up space too...and you can put the wind and solar generators directly above the fossil fuel plants providing shade and removing the need for air conditioning.

Anyway solar panels CAN power a home:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/13/business/energy-environment/california-off-grid.html

Nobody is quite sure how many off-grid homes there are but local officials and real estate agents said there were dozens here in Nevada County, a picturesque part of the Sierra Nevada range between Sacramento and Lake Tahoe. Some energy experts say that millions of people could eventually go off the grid as costs drop.

Do you fuel your motorcycle on gasoline pumps installed in your backyard?

@athousandyoung said
No single story house is going to be powered by the fossil fuels found underneath the house either. Fossil fuel plants take up space too...and you can put the wind and solar generators directly above the fossil fuel plants providing shade and removing the need for air conditioning.

Anyway solar panels CAN power a home:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/13/b ...[text shortened]... as costs drop.

Do you fuel your motorcycle on gasoline pumps installed in your backyard?

If I wanted a solar powered motorcycle I'd have to attach a 200' trailer to the back. Try some basic physics, how much energy can be received from the sun per square yard, average for a year. Then I'd need another trailer attached to that to power the trailer now attached to my bike, and another after that to push the whole train along.

@wildgrass said
Just like farming/ producing/ mining any other dang resource.

Wikldgrass........The produce which you mention, consumed by people in big cities, may have been, snd originated from, harvests in Patagonia. Stay with me here wild grass. Electricity, consumed by those people, has to be created 'close by".
wild grass,, there is no land available near metropolitans (Gotham, to you comic-book children) with which to build all your faareie solar and wind machines. No land!! Jesus H.

@athousandyoung said
Put them on the roof you fool

Do a thread on that, Thousand. Start by defining 'the roof''>. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
My wife's roof? Haha. Pelosi's roof!?!?!?! Hahahaha

You are double-standard city. Marauder's roof?!? hahaha

@wajoma said
If I wanted a solar powered motorcycle I'd have to attach a 200' trailer to the back. Try some basic physics, how much energy can be received from the sun per square yard, average for a year. Then I'd need another trailer attached to that to power the trailer now attached to my bike, and another after that to push the whole train along.

Is anyone reading this ?? Wajoma is KILLING the Thousand character. Read what Thousand wants to do to your house. Oh, is the goveeeeerrrnnnnnnnnnnnnmmmeent going to pay for it??

Anyway solar panels CAN power a home:

[quote]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/13/business/energy-environment/california-off-grid.html

Thousand says the solar panels can power a home. He said that , he actually did, I am just the messenger.
This is the inaneness that we must deal with every day.

@wajoma said
If I wanted a solar powered motorcycle I'd have to attach a 200' trailer to the back. Try some basic physics, how much energy can be received from the sun per square yard, average for a year. Then I'd need another trailer attached to that to power the trailer now attached to my bike, and another after that to push the whole train along.

How big is your fossil fuel extracting trailer now?

@averagejoe1 said
Do a thread on that, Thousand. Start by defining 'the roof''>. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
My wife's roof? Haha. Pelosi's roof!?!?!?! Hahahaha

You are double-standard city. Marauder's roof?!? hahaha

You don't know what a roof is?

@averagejoe1 said
Wikldgrass........The produce which you mention, consumed by people in big cities, may have been, snd originated from, harvests in Patagonia. Stay with me here wild grass. Electricity, consumed by those people, has to be created 'close by".
wild grass,, there is no land available near metropolitans (Gotham, to you comic-book children) with which to build all your faareie solar and wind machines. No land!! Jesus H.

There are hundreds of miles of empty desert and ocean around Los Angeles. Where exactly do you live?!