@no1marauder saidIn February, NARA noted that Trump and his representatives had been cooperating with NARA to transfer boxes of records from the Mar-a-Lago property to the National Archives.
Did you forget your own BS from page 13 of this thread?:
MB: Barack Obama left with 30 million documents for his presidential library. The National Archives do not have a single digital upload from that stash as of today. When will his residence get raided?
It proves you're a gullible moron (not that further proof was needed).
“Number one, it was all declassified,” Trump said in a statement.
“Number two, they didn’t need to ‘seize’ anything. They could have had it anytime they wanted to without playing politics and breaking into Mar-a-Lago.”
@metal-brain saidTrump said "Such an assault could only take place in broken 3rd world countries."
In February, NARA noted that Trump and his representatives had been cooperating with NARA to transfer boxes of records from the Mar-a-Lago property to the National Archives.
“Number one, it was all declassified,” Trump said in a statement.
“Number two, they didn’t need to ‘seize’ anything. They could have had it anytime they wanted to without playing politics and breaking into Mar-a-Lago.”
- why? If they were cooperating, all was declassified, there was nothing to hide so why is it an assault that could only take place in a 3rd world country?
Trump said that FBI were hiding and "Planting information."
- why? If Trump's cooperating, the docs are declassified, wouldn't make sense to plant evidence that validates Trump's claims that the raid was politically motivated.
Trump is defending himself by lashing out at "sleazy" "hoax" FBI agents planing evidence. These seem like desperate defenses. If it was all on the up-and-up there'd be no need for the misdirection and mud slinging.
14 Aug 22
@wildgrass saidWhy didn't NARA just ask for those documents?
Trump said "Such an assault could only take place in broken 3rd world countries."
- why? If they were cooperating, all was declassified, there was nothing to hide so why is it an assault that could only take place in a 3rd world country?
Trump said that FBI were hiding and "Planting information."
- why? If Trump's cooperating, the docs are declassified, wouldn't ma ...[text shortened]... e defenses. If it was all on the up-and-up there'd be no need for the misdirection and mud slinging.
Why was an FBI raid necessary for someone they said was cooperating?
@Metal-Brain
Keeping TS/SCI docs for THREE MONTHS after 'asking' is not being open, it means he has something to hide, like the idea he cannot declassify nuclear secret docs or spy identity and both those categories could be in the bunch he held back.
But you WANT all classified docs to be made public so you can figure out how to sell such stuff to Russians and more.
@sonhouse saidIf that is true why hasn't Trump been charged with a crime?
@Metal-Brain
Keeping TS/SCI docs for THREE MONTHS after 'asking' is not being open, it means he has something to hide, like the idea he cannot declassify nuclear secret docs or spy identity and both those categories could be in the bunch he held back.
But you WANT all classified docs to be made public so you can figure out how to sell such stuff to Russians and more.
“It has to be more than that because the Department of Justice and the FBI have already set a standard that makes it virtually impossible to prosecute a case like that,” he said, pointing to how former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s possession of classified documents was handled by the FBI, including then-Director James Comey.
“As people talk about Espionage Act and classified documents and all of that, the standard was set in 2016. Remember the Department of Justice and the FBI took the official position that Hillary Clinton, who was in possession of classified documents … that [being] in possession of that, that wasn’t enough, and that being grossly negligent and being careless, Jim Comey told us, that’s not enough under the Espionage Act. You have to know you’re violating the law,” Ratcliffe said.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/former-national-intelligence-director-trump-has-ultimate-declassification-authority
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/breaking-trump-describes-process-how-he-declassified-documents
@metal-brain saidNEWS ALERT: Sometimes Donald Trump isn't entirely truthful.
In February, NARA noted that Trump and his representatives had been cooperating with NARA to transfer boxes of records from the Mar-a-Lago property to the National Archives.
“Number one, it was all declassified,” Trump said in a statement.
“Number two, they didn’t need to ‘seize’ anything. They could have had it anytime they wanted to without playing politics and breaking into Mar-a-Lago.”
He was served a subpoena in June which required him to turn over all classified materials remaining at Margo Lago yet the search pursuant to the warrant resulted in the seizure of numerous classified materials.
15 Aug 22
"A lawyer for former President Donald Trump signed a statement in June telling the Justice Department that all classified materials had been returned — but the FBI found more during its search of Mar-a-Lago on Monday.
That's according to The New York Times, which first reported on the written declaration Saturday, citing four people familiar with the document. The statement was given to the Justice Department after a counterintelligence official had visited Mar-a-Lago on June 3, the outlet reported."
https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-lawyer-signed-statement-months-002954844.html
@metal-brain saidThey did ask for them and Trump through his lawyer said there was nothing left on the site. He lied then as always just like you.
Why didn't NARA just ask for those documents?
Why was an FBI raid necessary for someone they said was cooperating?
16 Aug 22
@no1marauder saidThen why hasn't he been charged with a crime?
"A lawyer for former President Donald Trump signed a statement in June telling the Justice Department that all classified materials had been returned — but the FBI found more during its search of Mar-a-Lago on Monday.
That's according to The New York Times, which first reported on the written declaration Saturday, citing four people familiar with the document. The stat ...[text shortened]... the outlet reported."
https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-lawyer-signed-statement-months-002954844.html
You are in denial again. You are accepting obvious contradictions because of partisan bias. I could explain it to you, but I already have and you ignored it. Trump cannot be charged with a crime for the same reason HRC was not charged with a crime. Figure it out on your own or I will challenge you to a bet until you accept it.
You know you are wrong. If not make a bet with me. The usual terms. End of the month deadline.
@metal-brain saidYou're an idiot and you don't understand how a bet works.
Then why hasn't he been charged with a crime?
You are in denial again. You are accepting obvious contradictions because of partisan bias. I could explain it to you, but I already have and you ignored it. Trump cannot be charged with a crime for the same reason HRC was not charged with a crime. Figure it out on your own or I will challenge you to a bet until you accept it.
You know you are wrong. If not make a bet with me. The usual terms. End of the month deadline.
Trump probably won't be charged with merely possessing documents except perhaps as a lesser charge. I think the AG has bigger fish to fry and your stupid insistence that because Trump hasn't been charged a week after a search warrant was executed he won't ever be is likely to look stupid soon.
@no1marauder saidYou have been misinformed about this issue the whole time.
You're an idiot and you don't understand how a bet works.
Trump probably won't be charged with merely possessing documents except perhaps as a lesser charge. I think the AG has bigger fish to fry and your stupid insistence that because Trump hasn't been charged a week after a search warrant was executed he won't ever be is likely to look stupid soon.
https://rumble.com/v1fxorr-anti-trump-judge-approved-mar-a-lago-raid.html
You will not take the bet because you know you are wrong. You obviously lack confidence and you are putting on a front.
@metal-brain saidNo, I won't take a bet where you are the sole judge of whether you win or lose the bet.
You have been misinformed about this issue the whole time.
https://rumble.com/v1fxorr-anti-trump-judge-approved-mar-a-lago-raid.html
You will not take the bet because you know you are wrong. You obviously lack confidence and you are putting on a front.
Which is what you insist on.
16 Aug 22
@averagejoe1 saidWhere was this talk of a "police state" when unarmed blacks were being gunned down by police in this country every day? Oh, yeah, you all were saying stuff like "Back the blue" and "BLUE lives matter". Now that Trump is looking at some possible hard time, now you're whining about a "police state".
Weaponized Politization, actually. What is in the arrest warrant? Trump has never seen it.
What are the facts, Sonhouse? No one gives a whit anymore about what you think about Trump. Kinda sick of your screeds, truth be known. Who reads them?
Why don’t you write about the witch hunt, it has gone on for 6 years with nothing. Impeachments? Nothing. Police State ...[text shortened]... t that. Controlling lives. The IRS power will kill the middle class.
All lookin GOOD, Sonhouse.
Cry me a freaking river, hypocrites.