24 Apr 07
Originally posted by MerkGood point. Is anyone suggesting a ban on advertising because it limits free choice? I kind of doubt it. What some people seem to want is to be able to choose who's allowed to control our childrens' minds. In other words, Bad Wolf etc. want to be able to indirectly control other childrens' minds.
No. It could not be argued that advertising limits choice.
If carrot growers flooded the Saturday morning cartoons with ads would they be limiting choice?
That is unless they want to ban advertising for anything anywhere any time.
24 Apr 07
Originally posted by kmax87You're comparing a legal product with an illegal one. Not a lot of pot growers advertise on TV. Same for the makers of those way cool 8 headed hooka pipes.
Does the same apply if someone cant handle marijuana?
ATYs answer is still correct though. Its not the dope dealers fault that some nitwit can't just smoke a little with their friends, make a bowl of salted shredded wheat with a little butter, have a laugh about it and call it good.
24 Apr 07
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungIt infringes upon a parent's freedom if a kid keeps seeing adverts & then pesters their mum/dad relentlessly for the latest happy meal & toy.
Good point. Is anyone suggesting a ban on advertising because it limits free choice? I kind of doubt it. What some people seem to want is to be able to choose who's allowed to control our childrens' minds. In other words, Bad Wolf etc. want to be able to indirectly control other childrens' minds.
That is unless they want to ban advertising for anything anywhere any time.
A 5 year old cannot make an informed decision, but they can make a parent's life hell!
This is the lowest form of advertising & can have severe long term effects on the child's health.
Obesity is the major cause of heart disease, which is the biggest cause of death in the West.
You wouldn't support advertising cigarrettes to children would you? (as is done in China) Why not? The parents can always say "no".🙄
24 Apr 07
Originally posted by MerkMy point is that we've allowed government to nanny us in so many ways over time.
You're comparing a legal product with an illegal one. Not a lot of pot growers advertise on TV. Same for the makers of those way cool 8 headed hooka pipes.
ATYs answer is still correct though. Its not the dope dealers fault that some nitwit can't just smoke a little with their friends, make a bowl of salted shredded wheat with a little butter, have a laugh about it and call it good.
Ban this toy because its dangerous, because some kid might try to poke the eyes out of some other and on and on.
Why should food be off limits? You have the right to make a pig of yourself and let society deal with your illnesses and pick up your care costs because you have become so incapacitated the state now has to provide for you? Which amendment to the Bill Of Rights was that one?
24 Apr 07
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Originally posted by MerkMarijuana isn't illegal because some people can't handle it. It's illegal because of cultural inertia and this is slowly fading away. It's legal in California now in a limited way for example. Of course there's also Amsterdam, etc.
You're comparing a legal product with an illegal one. Not a lot of pot growers advertise on TV. Same for the makers of those way cool 8 headed hooka pipes.
ATYs answer is still correct though. Its not the dope dealers fault that some nitwit can't just smoke a little with their friends, make a bowl of salted shredded wheat with a little butter, have a laugh about it and call it good.
The original reason marijuana was made illegal in the US is that the Mormon church controlled the law in Utah and didn't like it's churchmembers smoking for religious reasons.
The illegality spread because of beliefs like:
"All Mexicans are crazy, and this stuff [marijuana] is what makes them crazy."
"Marihuana influences Negroes to look at white people in the eye, step on white men's shadows and look at a white woman twice"
"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others."
"...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races."
"Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death."
"Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men."
"Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing"
"You smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother."
"Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind."
http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/12/22/whyIsMarijuanaIllegal.html
It's just another example of racist Christians with too much political power.
24 Apr 07
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There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others." .I always thought they banned it because Louie Armstrong suggested something more when he sang "high high, high high, high society!"
24 Apr 07
Originally posted by SquelchbelchInfringes upon a parent's freedom? I'm sorry but that is the nature of kids. Banning ads is not going to lessen that to any extent, trust me.
It infringes upon a parent's freedom if a kid keeps seeing adverts & then pesters their mum/dad relentlessly for the latest happy meal & toy.
A 5 year old cannot make an informed decision, but they can make a parent's life hell!
This is the lowest form of advertising & can have severe long term effects on the child's health.
Obesity is the m ...[text shortened]... to children would you? (as is done in China) Why not? The parents can always say "no".🙄
24 Apr 07
Originally posted by kmax87I'm not sure the government should be banning toys because the toys are dangerous.
My point is that we've allowed government to nanny us in so many ways over time.
Ban this toy because its dangerous, because some kid might try to poke the eyes out of some other and on and on.
Why should food be off limits? You have the right to make a pig of yourself and let society deal with your illnesses and pick up your care costs because you have ...[text shortened]... tated the state now has to provide for you? Which amendment to the Bill Of Rights was that one?
24 Apr 07
Originally posted by AThousandYoungThey do over here. The amount of Christmas toys that get pulled because they have catapult or firing mechanisms that can propel solid objects at the eyes of other little innocents.
I'm not sure the government should be banning toys because the toys are dangerous.
24 Apr 07
Originally posted by SquelchbelchNowhere in the world does a parent have a "right" to a child that does not hound them. Nobody is having their rights infringed upon.
It infringes upon a parent's freedom if a kid keeps seeing adverts & then pesters their mum/dad relentlessly for the latest happy meal & toy.
A 5 year old cannot make an informed decision, but they can make a parent's life hell!
This is the lowest form of advertising & can have severe long term effects on the child's health.
Obesity is the m ...[text shortened]... to children would you? (as is done in China) Why not? The parents can always say "no".🙄
No. Advertising lollypops to children cannot have severe long term health effects. Those ads are long gone out of their mind by the time they start buying their own groceries. What does have long term health effects on a child is their eating habits.
Care to guess who's responsible for a childs eating habits?