U.S. conservatives defend-the right to bear fat

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
I know they do. I am referring to whether they should.

Well you cant get an eye back if its gone, no matter how well meaning your argument for the protection of individual rights and the exercise of personal responsibility is. As adults you accept that kids don't understand concepts like momentum or that a car traveling at 50 will mash up bones. As a result of that fact, you as the adult take over the freedom of the child and direct its actions when walking near traffic.

The whole fat thing is about the reality as others have pointed out, that children are not equipped to make the right decisions about the foods that are devilishly tasty to them now, but with all the added trans fat component, will more likely than not end up with health problems later down the track.

Originally posted by kmax87
Well you cant get an eye back if its gone, no matter how well meaning your argument for the protection of individual rights and the exercise of personal responsibility is. As adults you accept that kids don't understand concepts like momentum or that a car traveling at 50 will mash up bones. As a result of that fact, you as the adult take over the freedom of ...[text shortened]... rans fat component, will more likely than not end up with health problems later down the track.

Well then, maybe the government should ban rocks, sticks, fingers and any other object a child can poke an eye out with.

"It's not fun and games until somebody loses an eye."

Originally posted by kmax87
Well you cant get an eye back if its gone, no matter how well meaning your argument for the protection of individual rights and the exercise of personal responsibility is. As adults you accept that kids don't understand concepts like momentum or that a car traveling at 50 will mash up bones. As a result of that fact, you as the adult take over the freedom of ...[text shortened]... rans fat component, will more likely than not end up with health problems later down the track.

Well you cant get an eye back if its gone

True. This is why we should be careful what toys we buy for our children.

As a result of that fact, you as the adult take over the freedom of the child and direct its actions when walking near traffic.

True. However we're not talking about taking adults' rights from children. We're talking about taking adults' rights from adults.

Originally posted by Merk
Nowhere in the world does a parent have a "right" to a child that does not hound them. Nobody is having their rights infringed upon.

No. Advertising lollypops to children cannot have severe long term health effects. Those ads are long gone out of their mind by the time they start buying their own groceries. What does have long term health effects on a child is their eating habits.

Care to guess who's responsible for a childs eating habits?

According to the EU, the big companies certainly have their share of responsibility:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4190313.stm

There is plenty of evidence that childhood eating habits can lead to health problems later on - it's just common sense.

Of course parents have a responsibility, I'm just saying that there is a good reason why fast food giants target kids with their advertising & spend so much of their revenue doing it.

I think we are arguing past each other here.

Originally posted by Squelchbelch
According to the EU, the big companies certainly have their share of responsibility:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4190313.stm

There is plenty of evidence that childhood eating habits can lead to health problems later on - it's just common sense.

Of course parents have a responsibility, I'm just saying that there is a good reason why fast ...[text shortened]... ing & spend so much of their revenue doing it.

I think we are arguing past each other here.

No. I don't think we are.

Its dirt simple. If parents don't buy the junk for their kids, its not profitable for companies to fill every commercial break with their ads. If parents started feeding their kids properly, junk food sales would decrease my literally tons every month.

Personally, I think it would make sense for the makers of *relatively* healthy "kids" food to advertise during prime time when the parents are watching.

The way to do this is not to stop trying to reach children, it's by reaching the parents.

Originally posted by Bad wolf
As the obesity crises continues in the USA, Conservatives say they defend the 'right to bare fat'.
How many more people have to die from this before we learn?

http://tinyurl.com/ywt725

Discuss.

I guess you don't read the papers then?

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=7056&sectionid=3510206

Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
I guess you don't read the papers then?

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=7056&sectionid=3510206

And? So what?

Originally posted by Merk
Kids are not suffering because they watched an add. They are suffering because their parents didn't feed them properly.

True, are you advocating teaching programs for the parents now?

Clearly in no way is it the kid's fault, they need some kind of protection, from the parents or from the advertisements, either seems fine to me really, as long as this problem gets sorted.

Originally posted by Bad wolf
True, are you advocating teaching programs for the parents now?

Clearly in no way is it the kid's fault, they need some kind of protection, from the parents or from the advertisements, either seems fine to me really, as long as this problem gets sorted.

So you want the government to monitor what parents feed their children?

Originally posted by no1marauder
So you want the government to monitor what parents feed their children?

Well, not at the moment, it wouldn't be practical.

Originally posted by Remora91
I saw a few chunky monkeys while in England. If you'd like to fix legislation regarding peoples' diets, do it in your own country first. Don't throw stones at my house if yours is made of glass.

Ads during children's programming are not designed for children to buy them. The children they are marketing to are too young to have any money. All children at child's health.

You're just jealous foreigners can actually eat our food. 😛 😉

It got you thinking though didn't it?
The original link is a joke (can no one tell?), don't you see the parallels to guns? lol

Yes it is the parent's responsibility, it isn't the kid's fault, but no one seems to want do anything about it, no one cares, that is what annoys me.

The UK already bans advertising of junk food to young children.
http://tinyurl.com/2nhjvg

Originally posted by Bad wolf
True, are you advocating teaching programs for the parents now?

Clearly in no way is it the kid's fault, they need some kind of protection, from the parents or from the advertisements, either seems fine to me really, as long as this problem gets sorted.

No. I'm advocating increased awareness.

Originally posted by Merk
No. I'm advocating increased awareness.

Good, that's a start.
How can this be done?

Originally posted by Bad wolf
Well, not at the moment, it wouldn't be practical.

If it was "practical", you'd be all for it?

I have a solution: the State could take away all children from their parents and feed them a diet approved by State experts. Would that be okey dokey with you?

Originally posted by Bad wolf
Good, that's a start.
How can this be done?

I'm a big idea guy. I'll leave the details to my detail people.

I'm thinking it would be reasonable to send a small pamphlet home with school kids. Something with a little bit of general information about the benifits of good health vs. the drawbacks of poor health.
You know, like all the skinny kids playing outside with huge smiles on their faces and all the fat kids sitting on the front steps with their heads hanging.

Include a couple of web addresses for more detailed info. Exercise routines, quick meal ideas, something that list the calories in foods, blah, blah, blah.