Walkout at Iran leader's speech

Originally posted by Redmike
Ahmadinejad has put forward anti-semitic and holocaust denying views in the past.

But from what I can see of this speech, there's not much I can disagree with.

Of course you would not since you and the muzlims have much in common, both being in favour of repressive regimes.
However It would be interesting to see you at one anothers throats over The Allah superstition.

Originally posted by no1marauder
I know it's confusing to simple minded right wingers, but opposing the creation of a Zionist state in Palestine doesn't equate to anti-semitism. And falsely claiming it does doesn't make it so no matter how many times that particular lie is repeated.

yeah, be a good boy just and believe whatever Ahmadinejad tells you.

Do you fantasise about him as well? (considering you fantasise about Chavez)

Originally posted by generalissimo
yeah, be a good boy just and believe whatever Ahmadinejad tells you.

Do you fantasise about him as well? (considering you fantasise about Chavez)

Seriously, are you a teenager? Your "contributions" to these forums are infantile.

Address the points raised or STFU.

Originally posted by Redmike
Ahmadinejad has put forward anti-semitic and holocaust denying views in the past.

But from what I can see of this speech, there's not much I can disagree with.

If you read them in context, he actually did not deny the Nazi holocaust, but rather he felt that the number was greatly exaggerated. While I disagree with him on the "greatly" part, the number was slightly exaggerated.

Originally posted by no1marauder
Seriously, are you a teenager? Your "contributions" to these forums are infantile.

Address the points raised or STFU.

Your "contributions" to these forums are infantile.

Im simply responding to your careless support for Ahmadinejad.

Originally posted by generalissimo
[b]Your "contributions" to these forums are infantile.

Im simply responding to your careless support for Ahmadinejad.[/b]

I don't "support" him. I do agree that a Zionist state should have never been created in Palestine and disagree with right wingers' assertions that to say so is to be "anti-Semitic".

If you want to address those points, do so. Your attempts at personal attacks are childish, however.

Originally posted by scherzo
See? This is why nobody in Iran likes the West. Because we support racist governments!

Israel can have a more friendlier and less hostile relation with Palestinians if there weren't people saying it should be destroyed.

Can't you see that you won't get anything by alienating Israel?

Ahmadinejad should know that his claims would make him controversial, and seen as an extremist. It didn't surprise me that people walked out.

Originally posted by no1marauder
I don't "support" him. I do agree that a Zionist state should have never been created in Palestine and disagree with right wingers' assertions that to say so is to be "anti-Semitic".

If you want to address those points, do so. Your attempts at personal attacks are childish, however.

If you want to address those points, do so. Your attempts at personal attacks are childish, however.

Fair enough, I'll stop the personal attacks, but the same applies to you (eg no more "simple-minded right-wing-etc" ).

Originally posted by generalissimo
Israel can have a more friendlier and less hostile relation with Palestinians if there weren't people saying it should be destroyed.

Can't you see that you won't get anything by alienating Israel?

Ahmadinejad should know that his claims would make him controversial, and seen as an extremist. It didn't surprise me that people walked out.

I don't think he really cares that the European delegates walked out. Not a single European leader thought the conference was important enough to attend.

Originally posted by generalissimo
Israel can have a more friendlier and less hostile relation with Palestinians if there weren't people saying it should be destroyed.

Can't you see that you won't get anything by alienating Israel?

Ahmadinejad should know that his claims would make him controversial, and seen as an extremist. It didn't surprise me that people walked out.

Israel can have a more friendlier and less hostile relation with Palestinians if there weren't people saying it should be destroyed.

Believe me, I'm a minority. The majority of Palestinians have given up, and are willing to recognize Israel. I've said that before.

Ahmadinejad should know that his claims would make him controversial, and seen as an extremist. It didn't surprise me that people walked out.

The one good political walkout in recent history was carried out by the Turkish foreign minister in the World Economic Forum earlier this year.

Originally posted by no1marauder
I know it's confusing to simple minded right wingers, but opposing the creation of a Zionist state in Palestine doesn't equate to anti-semitism. And falsely claiming it does doesn't make it so no matter how many times that particular lie is repeated.

What's simpleminded is this notion you have that zionists who claim anti-zionism is anti-semitic are simpleminded.

Obviously it's conceivable to be against zionism and not be anti-semitic. But it's not as politically correct as it used to be to come out and explicitly hate Jews. Surely you can at least see a CONCEIVABLE link between anti-semitism and anti-zionism? You can't deny they're related, even if one doesn't necessarily follow the other.


How can a person who denies practically the most well documented event in history possibly be taken seriously when discussing Middle Eastern politics? This is no trite thing to gloss over. His beliefs are predicated on lies, and these are the same beliefs you apparently have.

I wouldn't be proud of agreeing with such a lying, hate-filled lunatic about anything.

Originally posted by The Dude 84
What's simpleminded is this notion you have that zionists who claim anti-zionism is anti-semitic are simpleminded.

Obviously it's conceivable to be against zionism and not be anti-semitic. But it's not as politically correct as it used to be to come out and explicitly hate Jews. Surely you can at least see a CONCEIVABLE link between anti-semitism and ...[text shortened]...

I wouldn't be proud of agreeing with such a lying, hate-filled lunatic about anything.

While some anti-Semites do operate under the guise of anti-Zionism (one of the earliest examples of this is The Protocols of the Elders of Zion), the fear of this today is greatly exaggerated. Very few popular organizations and almost no popular people claim to be anti-Zionist to disguise anti-Semitism.

Originally posted by scherzo
Do you know what the word "racist" means?

oh, goody, are you going to explain it to us? please?

this, I gotta hear.

Originally posted by scherzo
While some anti-Semites do operate under the guise of anti-Zionism (one of the earliest examples of this is The Protocols of the Elders of Zion), the fear of this today is greatly exaggerated. Very few popular organizations and almost no popular people claim to be anti-Zionist to disguise anti-Semitism.

scherzo comes from a long line of real estate people -- they're a vacant lot.

Originally posted by generalissimo
[b] If you want to address those points, do so. Your attempts at personal attacks are childish, however.

Fair enough, I'll stop the personal attacks, but the same applies to you (eg no more "simple-minded right-wing-etc" ).[/b]

rats. I would prefer that you did not stop the personal attacks -- just about the only entertaining thing about this site. Why not tell him he's the reason brothers and sisters shouldn't marry.