21 Apr 09
Originally posted by shavixmirI see you don't know the meaning of the word "racism" - but then again you don't know the meaning of most words, do you bunky?
See. That's your problem.
Various cultures and various groups of people have defined and redefined "race" over the centuries.
From linguistical differences (Arians in India), to skin colour differences (blacks in the US) to inherited traits (freckles).
Are the Irish a race compared to the English? The Celts? The Picts?
If an Englishman telling a ...[text shortened]... beat up your wife and drive your pick-up over your dog Skeet's tail.
That's a good boy.
21 Apr 09
Originally posted by ScriabinYou really are tiresome.
I see you don't know the meaning of the word "racism" - but then again you don't know the meaning of most words, do you bunky?
Are you suggesting that "anti-Irish" jokes aren't racist? Is that what you're seriously suggesting?
http://www.irishhistorylinks.net/More_Links/Racism.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/6993591.stm
Or check out the race relations act in Britain.
21 Apr 09
Originally posted by shavixmirThere isn't an Irish race, just like there isn't a British race.
You really are tiresome.
Are you suggesting that "anti-Irish" jokes aren't racist? Is that what you're seriously suggesting?
http://www.irishhistorylinks.net/More_Links/Racism.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/6993591.stm
Or check out the race relations act in Britain.
The jokes are indeed a sign of prejudice, but not exactly racism, because it is towards a country, not a race.
21 Apr 09
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Originally posted by ScriabinTry this definition of "racial discrimination" from The International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination
I see you don't know the meaning of the word "racism" - but then again you don't know the meaning of most words, do you bunky?
:
1. In this Convention, the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/law/cerd.htm
Is there any doubt that the creation of a Zionist state, with the consequent expelling of and seizing of the land of the Arabs in Palestine, meets the definition of "racial discrimination" in this international treaty?
I assume even someone with a law degree apparently purchased from a school which advertises on the back of match book covers could figure that one out.
EDIT: The CERD has been ratified by 169 countries; not a single one objected to the definition given above. There is a strong argument that this definition is now international law.
21 Apr 09
Originally posted by ScriabinNo, it is not. There is nothing about ethnicity nor discrimination on that basis in the definition of the word "racism." It is discrimination based on physical attributes identified, politically and socially, as "racial" in nature.
No, it is not. There is nothing about ethnicity nor discrimination on that basis in the definition of the word "racism." It is discrimination based on physical attributes identified, politically and socially, as "racial" in nature.
what, now we make up dictionary definitions? In fact, scherzo does not know what the word racism means.
Neither does that ...[text shortened]... good @#%#%R are you even talking about, since you don't know the meaning of the words used?
OK, Mr. filibuster. Get to the point.
what, now we make up dictionary definitions? In fact, scherzo does not know what the word racism means.
Minor differences in wording.
Neither does that whack job of a Persian with the excessively close set, beady little eyes and even narrower little mind.
If I didn't see the Persian in there, I'd think you were referring to Bush. But why are you bringing the Shah into this?
hello, planet Earth calling scherzo the mentally challenged poseur pretending to be 1. an American, or 2. an Arab, or 3. a revolutionary, or who knows what, as he is also a whack job.
First two are correct. #3 is subjective. #4 is wrong.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
That was my definition, with one wording change.
Ethnicity is a different word, fool. Ethnicity and race are often used interchangeably although such use is incorrect and often results in confusion. Saying scherzo is confused is being too nice to him.
I assume the words "religion" and "faith" are completely different too.
(n) a term which represents social groups with a shared history, sense of identity, geography and cultural roots which may occur despite racial difference
So then despising Israel is not racism, bringing us back to point A.
22 Apr 09
Originally posted by shavixmirI'm suggesting you don't know much -- especially about the meaning of words you pretend to use.
You really are tiresome.
Are you suggesting that "anti-Irish" jokes aren't racist? Is that what you're seriously suggesting?
http://www.irishhistorylinks.net/More_Links/Racism.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/6993591.stm
Or check out the race relations act in Britain.
You are merely an ignorant jerk with a big mouth and no education worth mentioning.
you prove that by not being able to read a simple dictionary.
You think your "views" and assertions are all that should serve in the realm of argument.
You wouldn't last a nanosecond in the wonk palaces in my town -- you are just pathetic.
22 Apr 09
Originally posted by no1marauderyes, there is all the doubt in the English language. Your appeal to authority is not only ludicrous, it is logically fallacious -- just because a politically machined piece of paper crap purports to define a word doesn't make it so -
Try this definition of "racial discrimination" from The International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination
:
1. In this Convention, the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the p ...[text shortened]... ion given above. There is a strong argument that this definition is now international law.
It is a crock, a put up job, a false bit of nonsense.
You can cock up any bogus definition you like and it doesn't make it so.
You are a contemptible stoolie, a goose-stepping poltroon, a lying weasel, in short, a waste of time and space.
You actually think this appeal to bogus authority means something authoritative.
You have missed your calling -- try stand up comedy, you might be better at than you know -- you sure can get folks laughing at you.
22 Apr 09
Originally posted by scherzoI see you only open your mouth to change feet
[b]No, it is not. There is nothing about ethnicity nor discrimination on that basis in the definition of the word "racism." It is discrimination based on physical attributes identified, politically and socially, as "racial" in nature.
OK, Mr. filibuster. Get to the point.
what, now we make up dictionary definitions? In fact, scherzo does not kno ...[text shortened]... nce
So then despising Israel is not racism, bringing us back to point A.[/b]
22 Apr 09
Originally posted by ScriabinIt seems you don't like being called "tiresome" - and yet look at the way you hit back.
I'm suggesting you don't know much -- especially about the meaning of words you pretend to use.
You are merely an ignorant jerk with a big mouth and no education worth mentioning.
you prove that by not being able to read a simple dictionary.
You think your "views" and assertions are all that should serve in the realm of argument.
You wouldn't last a nanosecond in the wonk palaces in my town -- you are just pathetic.
22 Apr 09
Originally posted by ScriabinSee?
I'm suggesting you don't know much -- especially about the meaning of words you pretend to use..
I bet the wonk palaces in your town (as you put it, I have no idea what a wonk palace is) are filled with child molesting, wife beating, trailer trash that just lap up your monotonous ramblings like you're some sort of intellectual.
Which goes a long way to prove that intellectual is nothing but a comparison to one's wonk peers.
I don't pretend to use words. I use them.
I may pretend to know what they mean, but I don't pretend to use them.
Realitic check.
Nah... forget it, go back to driving your pick-up.