why can't Adam Lambert kiss who he wants?

Originally posted by joneschr
I don't see the big deal. This stuff is all over the place. If you don't like this sort of "entertainment" don't watch it. If you don't want your kids to see stuff like this, don't let them watch these shows. What's so complex?

Because you don't know when or where it's going to pop up anymore.

Originally posted by Sam The Sham
Because you don't know when or where it's going to pop up anymore.

Then turn off the TV. Encourage your kids to take up hobbies. And to read.

Originally posted by FMF
Then turn off the TV. Encourage your kids to take up hobbies. And to read.

Great idea let's let the gay pornographers take over the media because it's their "right" to shove it in our face everywhere they go.

Originally posted by Sam The Sham
Great idea let's let the gay pornographers take over the media because it's their "right" to shove it in our face everywhere they go.

Sorry, but England mustn't be as prude as I thought, even we dont consider two people kissing (dressed and on lips) pornography! Yay!

Originally posted by FMF
Then turn off the TV. Encourage your kids to take up hobbies. And to read.

And to play in the park, get fresh air and not turn into fat lard butts!! Good call!

Originally posted by Sam The Sham
Great idea let's let the gay pornographers take over the media because it's their "right" to shove it in our face everywhere they go.

Regardless of your frustrations and prejudices, turning off the TV, encouraging your kids to take up hobbies and to read, are all good ideas I think. Who wants to be mired in debating the miniscule degrees of how trashy trash TV is? Getting het up by this kind of stuff suggest that you yourself could perhaps seize life by the lapels and look for more meaningful stuff to animate your critical faculties.

Originally posted by FMF
Regardless of your frustrations and prejudices, turning off the TV, encouraging your kids to take up hobbies and to read, are all good ideas I think. Who wants to be mired in debating the miniscule degrees of how trashy trash TV is? Getting het up by this kind of stuff suggest that you yourself could perhaps seize life by the lapels and look for more meaningful stuff to animate your critical faculties.

You bring up good points about reading, hobbies, etc, but you're missing the big picture.

The point people are trying to make is that we have a mass media (TV) that seems to be afraid of offending anyone and is letting a lot of questionable sexual/homosexual garbage make it's way onto any show , and the brainwashed public is in the same 1984 style fear of crimethink, and letting it happen in the name of freedom, using tired platitudes about "don't let your kids watch it if you don't like it", no matter how often it shows up in any venue.

It's not just TV, but in public, and in front of kids. There comes a point when explicitly homo behaviour needs to go back into the closet a bit for general morality and PUBLIC DECENCY.

Originally posted by Sam The Sham
The point people are trying to make is that we have a mass media (TV) that seems to be afraid of offending anyone and is letting a lot of questionable sexual/homosexual garbage make it's way onto any show , and the brainwashed public is in the same 1984 style fear of crimethink and letting it happen in the name of freedom, using tired platitudes about " ...[text shortened]... let your kids watch it if you don't like it", no matter how often it shows up in any venue.

You remind of little chickens in their battery farm cages, thinking only about the colour of the seeds that are doled out to you, oblivious to the fact that the cage door is, in fact, open.

"...the brainwashed public is in the same 1984 style fear of crimethink and letting it happen in the name of freedom..."

Ouch. I can't imagine deliberately living a life that is so empty and misanthropic that these are the kind of fulminating feedback routines one goes into because of something on TV.

Brainwashing, crimethink, the end of freedom? Sounds really rough for you.

Originally posted by Sam The Sham
It's not just TV, but in public, and in front of kids. There comes a point when explicitly homo behaviour needs to go back into the closet a bit for general morality and PUBLIC DECENCY.

You remind me of some of the regressive Muslims I sometimes meet here in Indonesia.

Originally posted by FMF
You remind of little chickens in their battery farm cages, thinking only about the colour of the seeds that are doled out to you, oblivious to the fact that the cage door is, in fact, open.

[b]"...the brainwashed public is in the same 1984 style fear of crimethink and letting it happen in the name of freedom..."

Ouch. I can't imagine deliberately livi ...[text shortened]... omething on TV.

Brainwashing, crimethink, the end of freedom? Sounds really rough for you.[/b]

OK you win, any morality no matter how minute is a bad thing, having no morals is a good thing. Drawing the line anywhere is small minded.

When President Caligula makes his horse Vice President and marries his sister, you can throw rice at the wedding.

Originally posted by Sam The Sham
OK you win, any morality no matter how minute is a bad thing, having no morals is a good thing. Drawing the line anywhere is small minded.

I don't consider homosexuality immoral. This, I believe, is the result of me being well brought up and educated.

Originally posted by FMF
I don't consider homosexuality immoral. This, I believe, is the result of me being well brought up and educated.

I don't consider it immoral either, never said that. As far as your education, don't brag, I can tell by the things you say you might have spent a lot of years in school but you didn't learn much.

Originally posted by Sam The Sham
I can tell by the things you say you might have spent a lot of years in school but you didn't learn much.

That may be so. I obviously didn't get as far as the bit where we were taught to harp on incessantly about beastly homos and thus consider ourselves to be somehow in the vanguard of "decency". If I'd gained more benefit from my schooling I'd now be a proud homophobe, is that how it works in SamWorld? LOL.

Originally posted by FMF
That may be so. I obviously didn't get as far as the bit where we were taught to harp on incessantly about beastly homos and thus consider ourselves to be somehow in the vanguard of "decency". If I'd gained more benefit from my schooling I'd now be a proud homophobe, is that how it works in SamWorld? LOL.

OK perhaps I'm not expressing myself well.

I don't consider being gay to be indecent or immoral any more than masturbation. Just keep it out of the media, keep it private, and don't do it in public. You wouldn't jerk off on TV would you? Or do it while standing in line at a theater for all to watch?


No need to insult me, but just where do you draw the line? Copraphagia on TV ?

Originally posted by Sam The Sham
You wouldn't jerk off on TV would you?

I am not on TV. And I don't watch TV. Last time I checked, there was plenty of masturbation and heterosexual-intercourse on cable TV. Didn't hear you announce the End Of Freedom and the setting up of "1984" vis a vis that. I've suggested you try reading books and stuff. If this Adam Lambert celebrity puff thing has truly got your shorts in an apocapyptic knot about crimethink and incest in Ancient Rome, then I pity you for the manufactured outrages darkening the wretchedly limited horizons of your mental life.

just where do you draw the line?

So gays are as free as you and me and yet apparently if they open about their homosexuality they have crossed "the line"?