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Why didn't Ukraine become neutral?

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@metal-brain said
74% of Americans are letting their emotions dominate their thinking.
68% of percentages on the internet are made up. In the case of Metal, 98%.

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@metal-brain said
That applies to the USA. We didn't stop with Afghanistan which lead to Iraq. That lead to invading Libya, more and more murder. So basically you are saying nobody stops at one invasion and Putin is unremarkable in that respect. Nobody stops after the first invasion. Right?
Yeah if you count Chechnya and Syria this is probably Putin’s 4th maybe 5th invasion. None of the US “invasions” you cited had any relation to each other Putin on the other hand has been creeping west and this is his biggest westward land grab to date, logic implies that a NATO country will be next. So only Putin can stop the war that he started 🤷🏻‍♂️

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I feel dumber after reading this thread.

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@kevcvs57 said
Yeah if you count Chechnya and Syria this is probably Putin’s 4th maybe 5th invasion. None of the US “invasions” you cited had any relation to each other Putin on the other hand has been creeping west and this is his biggest westward land grab to date, logic implies that a NATO country will be next. So only Putin can stop the war that he started 🤷🏻‍♂️
You are misinformed by propaganda.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-major-instigator-ukraine-conflict/5771863

Have you counted US invasions?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Invasions_by_the_United_States

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@metal-brain said
You are misinformed by propaganda.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-major-instigator-ukraine-conflict/5771863

Have you counted US invasions?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Invasions_by_the_United_States
Your a lying idiotic Kremonazi who keeps spewing out BS from fake news websites.
Your posts are completely meaningless to anyone who is even tenuously attached to reality.

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@kevcvs57 said
Your a lying idiotic Kremonazi who keeps spewing out BS from fake news websites.
Your posts are completely meaningless to anyone who is even tenuously attached to reality.
LOL! Prove it. You cannot.
That is why you have your panties in a bunch.

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The "Zelensky is a hero" mantra is very harmful. It's likely that Zelensky could have negotiated and avoided the entire invasion to begin with. It may have involved relinquishing the Donbas regions, but given the majority of the local populations supported that, it's worthwhile to consider this option against the current cost of resistance. Appeasing Putin may not have worked, but we would essentially be in the same position as we are today if it didn't. Isn't it worth a shot if there is a chance it could have prevented the death, destruction, and misplacement of millions? Or perhaps it would not even have required the separation of Donbas but simply a neutrality agreement, as is being discussed now.

Sadly we don't know because these concessions were not seriously considered by Zelensky prior to the invasion. And instead, the entire world has cheered him on as he subjected millions to the consequences of delayed negotiations.

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@metal-brain said
The "Zelensky is a hero" mantra is very harmful. It's likely that Zelensky could have negotiated and avoided the entire invasion to begin with. It may have involved relinquishing the Donbas regions, but given the majority of the local populations supported that, it's worthwhile to consider this option against the current cost of resistance. Appeasing Putin may not have wo ...[text shortened]... ntire world has cheered him on as he subjected millions to the consequences of delayed negotiations.
Putin is a murdering fascist scumbag that’s why Ukrainians are dying in their droves including women and children.
Why should a country negotiate away their sovereignty to a dictator? Why are you so detached from reality? Your trying to blame Ukraine for not giving up its sovereignty in order to stop a murderous neighbouring dictator from slaughtering them. Your worldview is one of the strangest I’ve ever come across.
The ex comedian is making the ‘hard man’ Putin look like a feeble scared old granny hunkered down in the Kremlin shielding even from the reality of his own strategic errors.

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@kevcvs57 said
Putin is a murdering fascist scumbag that’s why Ukrainians are dying in their droves including women and children.
Why should a country negotiate away their sovereignty to a dictator? Why are you so detached from reality? Your trying to blame Ukraine for not giving up its sovereignty in order to stop a murderous neighbouring dictator from slaughtering them. Your worldview i ...[text shortened]... old granny hunkered down in the Kremlin shielding even from the reality of his own strategic errors.
How do you feel about GW Bush and Obama? Same amount of disdain?

You are trying to blame Iraq, Libya and Syria for not giving up their sovereignty in order to stop a murderous superpower from slaughtering them. Your worldview is one of the most hypocritical I’ve ever come across. You are the one who is strange. Are you incapable of realizing you hold 2 contradictory opinions at the same time? All because of partisan bias?

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@metal-brain said
LOL! Prove it. You cannot.
That is why you have your panties in a bunch.
Hahaha are you sure it’s my panties that are in a bunch son, I’m guessing your blood pressure is going through the roof right now what with your boss getting his ass handed to him, no Orthodox Christmas bonus for you this year 😢

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@kevcvs57 said
Hahaha are you sure it’s my panties that are in a bunch son, I’m guessing your blood pressure is going through the roof right now what with your boss getting his ass handed to him, no Orthodox Christmas bonus for you this year 😢
Still not proving it.
Loser.

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@Metal-Brain
Oh man, we are CRUSHED Comrade.

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@sonhouse said
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Oh man, we are CRUSHED Comrade.
Did you just get back from your gay pride party?

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@metal-brain said
Did you just get back from your gay pride party?
There’s the little fascist Muscovite we’ve come to know and despise 👍

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@Metal-Brain
Ah, all that stuff that 'seems reasonable to me', you fool nobody, that is right out of your boss's playbook, you know, Putin.

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