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07 Oct 23
@shavixmir saidThey couldn't say one way or another but they did go into detail as to how they had analysed video and pictures, down to comparing shadows. They said, surprise surprise that the death cult Hamas blamed the IDF, who would surely know doing anything like it even firing warning shots or anything in the area would be a total disaster for them.
Did you or did you not suggest that the BBC wasn’t sure it was an airstrike?
And did they or did they not question the validity of it being an airstrike?
Moron.
PS I'm still waiting for all news sources saying it was the IDF and not just Hamas.
Edit: Pseud Boy Shaggy said:
"And all news sources say it was the IDF anyways."
16 Oct 23
@wajoma saidYou can look them up yourself.
They couldn't say one way or another but they did go into detail as to how they had analysed video and pictures, down to comparing shadows. They said, surprise surprise that the death cult Hamas blamed the IDF, who would surely know doing anything like it even firing warning shots or anything in the area would be a total disaster for them.
PS I'm still waiting for all news ...[text shortened]... Hamas.
Edit: Pseud Boy Shaggy said:
"And all news sources say it was the IDF anyways."
And you still can’t admit to lying about what the BBC said.
You sad, pathetic little incel, you.
@shavixmir saidNot even the BBC is saying it ijit.
You can look them up yourself.
And you still can’t admit to lying about what the BBC said.
You sad, pathetic little incel, you.
Pseud Boy Shag Doody for Brains said:
"And all news sources say it was the IDF anyways."
@wajoma saidYour initial post repeated:
Warning shot to evacuate building.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_D0PXXL6l4
"Point not addressed: Israel issues warnings about targets, Hamas does not."
You are using loose, ordinary language without the exact use of such quantifiers as "all", "some", "at least one", "never", etc.
While others are trying to understand you, interpreting your text benevolently, you are misusing it, interpreting the answers non-benevolently. So, you are cheating.
Therefore, I am taking back my previous answer, and I am answering simply:
Your initial post is non-understandable and meaningless sequence of utterances.
16 Oct 23
@wajoma saidWhile you have his skewed attention, please ask him for where it says that housing is a right. Yes, that is off-subject, but his misrepresentation of facts is the subject of the moment.
They couldn't say one way or another but they did go into detail as to how they had analysed video and pictures, down to comparing shadows. They said, surprise surprise that the death cult Hamas blamed the IDF, who would surely know doing anything like it even firing warning shots or anything in the area would be a total disaster for them.
PS I'm still waiting for all news ...[text shortened]... Hamas.
Edit: Pseud Boy Shaggy said:
"And all news sources say it was the IDF anyways."
16 Oct 23
@no1marauder saidThis could actually present an opportunity. That Abbas has been relatively quiet and plainly doesn't support Hamas could present a tremendous opportunity.
All "previous methods" for the last 20 years have relied on force. They haven't worked and this one won't either just because it employs even more force. You can't repress a people and expect them not to resist. Unfortunately, there are some who will resist by committing war crimes; responding to that by even worse war crimes isn't a solution unless you're willing to go f ...[text shortened]... ace with the Palestinians. Few would be interested in supporting that organization if that was done.
Imagine if Israel announced that it was going to surgically take out Hamas, re-install the PA in Gaza and then come to the table with a serious negotiation for something along the lines of what was discussed and Camp David and Taba. Once they have a state, they can have all the elections they like, but Hamas can't be allowed back into power.
Abbas would be happy. The US would be happy. The Europeans would be happy. The Arab states except for Iran would be happy. Even the Gazans would be happy. And it would be good for Israel long term.
Of course they're going to F it up as always, but one can dream.
@sh76 saidThat this attack is going to change the Israeli's right opposition to a Palestinian State (a real one, not Bantustans) is a complete pipe dream.
This could actually present an opportunity. That Abbas has been relatively quiet and plainly doesn't support Hamas could present a tremendous opportunity.
Imagine if Israel announced that it was going to surgically take out Hamas, re-install the PA in Gaza and then come to the table with a serious negotiation for something along the lines of what was discussed and Camp David ...[text shortened]... ld be good for Israel long term.
Of course they're going to F it up as always, but one can dream.
Israel's idea of a "surgical" operation has killed thousands of civilians already. How could Abbas accept being placed into power by the Israelis after this war is over - which, if Israel ground invades to "take out Hamas" - will mean tens of thousands of more deaths?
The most likely result of this war is the strengthening of extremism on both sides.
16 Oct 23
The post that was quoted here has been removedGaza is densely populated with 2.3 million people crammed into an area about the size of Washington, DC. Israel knows full well that air strikes of the magnitude they have ordered (6000 bombs dropped in a matter of days) in such an urban area will kill many more civilians than Hamas fighters. Video evidence shows entire residential neighborhoods destroyed.
This is vengeance, not a "precise" attempt to eradicate Hamas.
16 Oct 23
@eintaluj saidI checked my wheel barrow, my care wheel barrow, and it was empty.
Your initial post repeated:
"Point not addressed: Israel issues warnings about targets, Hamas does not."
You are using loose, ordinary language without the exact use of such quantifiers as "all", "some", "at least one", "never", etc.
While others are trying to understand you, interpreting your text benevolently, you are misusing it, interpreting the answers non-bene ...[text shortened]... nswering simply:
Your initial post is non-understandable and meaningless sequence of utterances.
17 Oct 23
@averagejoe1 saidI’ve pointed this out to you multiple times.
While you have his skewed attention, please ask him for where it says that housing is a right. Yes, that is off-subject, but his misrepresentation of facts is the subject of the moment.
You don’t like the facts, fine by me. Live in your bubble.
17 Oct 23
@sh76 saidIran’s not an Arab state
This could actually present an opportunity. That Abbas has been relatively quiet and plainly doesn't support Hamas could present a tremendous opportunity.
Imagine if Israel announced that it was going to surgically take out Hamas, re-install the PA in Gaza and then come to the table with a serious negotiation for something along the lines of what was discussed and Camp David ...[text shortened]... ld be good for Israel long term.
Of course they're going to F it up as always, but one can dream.
22 Oct 23
@AverageJoe1
Most people do not want to arm Israel or Ukraine. Biden is ignoring the majority of Americans who want the money to be spent here in the USA.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/poll-finds-lackluster-desire-arm-supply-israel-even-among-gop
The USA is not a democracy. The politicians are not representing the majority of Americans. We are tired of paying for imperialism.
22 Oct 23
@no1marauder saidThis is the problem. Agreed!
The most likely result of this war is the strengthening of extremism on both sides.