Debates
07 Oct 23
@wajoma saidThat's not how it works. God, how stupid can you be? Keep your "collective race guilt" dreck to yourself. Most Palestinians in Gaza are just ordinary people trying to live a life. Being as wantonly murderous as the enemy only justifies the enemy's stance.
How much notice was given to the people in Southern Israel, to the attendees of the music festival?
@soothfast saidPoint not addressed: Israel issues warning about targets, Hamas does not. You do know that Hamas is instructing people not to leave, it's better PR if they get blown up. In a case where minutes count.
That's not how it works. God, how stupid can you be? Keep your "collective race guilt" dreck to yourself. Most Palestinians in Gaza are just ordinary people trying to live a life. Being as wantonly murderous as the enemy only justifies the enemy's stance.
Instead we get something about 'race'?
13 Oct 23
@wajoma saidWar crimes committed by one party do not, morally, ethically, or legally, justify the subsequent committing of war crimes by the other party.
Point not addressed: Israel issues warning about targets, Hamas does not. You do know that Hamas is instructing people not to leave, it's better PR if they get blown up. In a case where minutes count.
Instead we get something about 'race'?
@soothfast saidPoint not addressed: Israel issues warnings about targets, Hamas does not.
War crimes committed by one party do not, morally, ethically, or legally, justify the subsequent committing of war crimes by the other party.
Race card not played this time.
@wajoma saidIsrael's apologists are clearly laboring under the delusion that Palestinians in general deserve what they get because they allow Hamas members to live amongst them. A collective guilt, if you will.
Point not addressed: Israel issues warnings about targets, Hamas does not.
Race card not played this time.
If Israeli and US intelligence agencies didn't get a whiff of what Hamas was up to, then how was the average Palestinian taxi driver or construction worker supposed to know?
13 Oct 23
@soothfast saidNo innocent people, Palestinian nor Israeli, deserve what is happening right now.
Israel's apologists are clearly laboring under the delusion that Palestinians in general deserve what they get because they allow Hamas members to live amongst them.
If Israeli and US intelligence agencies didn't get a whiff of what Hamas was up to, then how was the average Palestinian taxi driver or construction worker supposed to know?
soothfast said:
'...clearly laboring under the delusion...' is a cliche' phrase people use to try to sound intelligent. Cliche' is never intelligent.
13 Oct 23
@soothfast saidHint;
Israel's apologists are clearly laboring under the delusion that Palestinians in general deserve what they get because they allow Hamas members to live amongst them. A collective guilt, if you will.
If Israeli and US intelligence agencies didn't get a whiff of what Hamas was up to, then how was the average Palestinian taxi driver or construction worker supposed to know?
terrorist do what terrorist do, hamas, hezbola, isis… I know what they do, you know what they …do you think the “palestinians” that voted them into office didnt know what they do?
13 Oct 23
@sh76 saidGet lost together with your lies and demagoguery.
There has been no targeting of civilians. There is targeting of Hamas operation centers, weapons caches and launching sites, that happen to be hidden (intentionally) in civilian neighborhoods.
And you ignored the message you replied to.
You are distorting the notion of war crimes.
First, read these conventions before starting to claim here such things.
@wajoma saidI note you tend to despise common phrases that you deem sound too "edu-ma-cated." Like "the topic at hand" some months ago.
No innocent people, Palestinian nor Israeli, deserve what is happening right now.
soothfast said:
'...clearly laboring under the delusion...' is a cliche' phrase people use to try to sound intelligent. Cliche' is never intelligent.
Such complaints are pathetic and reflect poorly on you. That you don't recognize this is just another symptom of your general intellectual (not to mention moral) bankruptcy.
@soothfast saidI provided an escape route for soothfast i.e. her unoriginal cliche' parrot style, she fell for the bait, anything to get off the subject she was getting ass kicked on.
I note you tend to despise common phrases that you deem sound too "edu-ma-cated." Like "the topic at hand" some months ago.
Such complaints are pathetic and reflect poorly on you. That you don't recognize this is just another symptom of your general intellectual (not to mention moral) bankruptcy.
@wajoma saidIt is accepted already that HAMAS is a terrorist organization. No need to repeat it.
How much notice was given to the people in Southern Israel, to the attendees of the music festival?
Now, we are talking about Israel's war crimes, etc.
The fact that your enemy committed a war crime does NOT justify your war crimes.
Read the definition of "war crime" before talking your nonsense here.
13 Oct 23
@wajoma saidBack in toddler mode, I see. Completely jumped the track.
I provided an escape route for soothfast i.e. her unoriginal cliche' parrot style, she fell for the bait, anything to get off the subject she was getting ass kicked on.
And why? Because you have nothing else to offer.
Maybe you should have stayed in school.
13 Oct 23
@wajoma said"The justification is that Hamas must be stopped and all previous methods have not worked."
Hamas does the indiscriminate rocket attacks, they do not target military facilities etc. Israel's attacks are precise, you can argue the intel behind the attack if you had the faintest idea about what information they have but to say it's indiscriminate when the case is 180 degrees the opposite makes you sound like the 6 year old.
The justification is that Hamas must be stopped and all previous methods have not worked.
That is the justification Mr 6 year old.
- It is a standard and classical justification of terrorism. As well you could argue:
"The justification is that Israel must be stopped and all previous methods have not worked."
@soothfast saidWajoma never addresses this. Wajoma wants to gibber about English idioms that don't fit well in the burnt-out lumberyard of nonsense and twaddle that may once have been his brain. Okay.
Israel's apologists are clearly laboring under the delusion that Palestinians in general deserve what they get because they allow Hamas members to live amongst them. A collective guilt, if you will.
If Israeli and US intelligence agencies didn't get a whiff of what Hamas was up to, then how was the average Palestinian taxi driver or construction worker supposed to know?