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Originally posted by Starrman
1) If you were french, would you prefer to use ils (the pluralisation of the male pronoun il) to refer to a group of people in which at least one is male, irrespective of how many millions of females were also in the group, or xys (a gender non-specific pronoun which does not favour male or female in the group)?

2) We do not know for sure that you are ...[text shortened]... in person. The gender non-specific pronoun could be used to effectively render this irrelevant.
Boy, this should be a great debate.

/deadpan

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Originally posted by Suzianne
It looks like I'm going to have to imagine a lot, since you STILL haven't cited your source(s).
I'm waiting for you to commit to something. To call, you have to chip in something. If you think I'm bluffing, go ahead.

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Originally posted by Palynka
Wow. The idiocy just keeps growing.

How are Mexico murder rates comparable? Cross-state comparisons are much better tests because states are much less heterogeneous than countries.
texas and california (esp. sud) have got a lot more in common with mexico than those county-sized NE states sh76 keeps going on about in the election threads.

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
texas and california (esp. sud) have got a lot more in common with mexico than those county-sized NE states sh76 keeps going on about in the election threads.
Not when it comes to the judicial system. For example, states share the same constitution but Mexico does not.

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so? judicial system comes into play AFTER the crime.

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http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/mexico/090414/trouble-the-us-mexico-border

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/mexico/090113/live-or-die-mexico

To live or die in Mexico

A spike in murders and kidnappings prompts calls to bring back the death penalty.

By Marion Lloyd - GlobalPost
Published: January 14, 2009 08:10 ET
Updated: February 28, 2009 13:21 ET

MEXICO CITY — The street peddler's face darkened when asked how the Mexican government should deal with the rash of kidnappings and drug slayings terrorizing the nation.

"They should catch the perpetrators and kill them," said Luis Bote, 21, as he served steaming tacos from a basket on his bicycle. "Only if the criminals are afraid will these crimes ever stop."

Bote isn't alone. Such calls to reinstate the death penalty are gaining ground in Mexico amid an unprecedented surge in violent crime. Most of the violence is tied to the warring narcotics gangs, who killed a record 5,500 people last year, including a growing number of kidnapping victims.

In December, the governor of northern Coahuila state sponsored a bill in the Mexican Congress that would bring back the death penalty for kidnappers who murder their victims. Legislators are expected to debate the proposal when they resume sessions in February.

"These are people who won't be rehabilitated in jail," said Coahuila Gov. Humberto Moreira, whose cattle ranching state borders Texas. "Let's get real and let's start executing the kidnappers."

The Green Party, a minority party in Congress, has gone further, advocating capital punishment in all homicide cases. "Because we worry about your life, we're going to end the life of murderers," declare the party's billboards, which are plastered across the capital.

The proposals have sparked outrage from human rights activists, the Roman Catholic Church and some politicians, who denounce them as immoral and illegal. Mexico eradicated the final vestiges of the death penalty in 2005. The last time the punishment was applied here was in 1961.

Since 2000, the Mexican government has successfully defended more than 400 Mexicans on death row in the United States. Mexico is also bound by the Inter-American Convention on Human Rights, which bars countries who have abolished the death penalty from later reinstating it.

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/mexico/090414/trouble-the-us-mexico-border

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/mexico/090113/live-or-die-mexico

To live or die in Mexico

A spike in murders and kidnappings prompts calls to bring back the death penalty.

By Marion Lloyd - GlobalPost
Published: January 14, 2009 08:10 ET
Updated: February 28, 20 ...[text shortened]... ountries who have abolished the death penalty from later reinstating it.

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"It's clearly an electioneering tactic, and this is playing with the feelings of desperation of many Mexicans," said Carlos Navarrete, a senator with the leftist Democratic Revolutionary Party, which opposes the bill. "There are some topics with which the Congress should not play." The pro-Catholic National Action Party, to which President Felipe Calderon belongs, has also opposed the proposal.

But they may be out of touch with their electorate.

Between 70 and 80 percent of Mexicans favor the death penalty for kidnappers who kill their victims, according to several recent opinion polls. Forty-four percent support executing kidnappers in general, compared with 50 percent who are opposed, according to an August survey by The Associated Press and the pollster Ipsos.

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
so? judicial system comes into play AFTER the crime.
Nope. We've been there before.

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Originally posted by Suzianne
Frankly I do not care about the etymology.

Merriam-Webster's definition is enough for me, and precisely how I meant it.

2 : a stupid, vulgar, or insensitive person : clod, lout


And like I've told Ragnorak a hundred times, you can either use the correct pronouns when referring to me, or do not refer to me at all.
You don't care at all where a word comes from that you used and posted, but you demanded to know the source of Palynka's statistics? Look the word "hypocrite" up in your dictionary...

Speaking of dictionaries:
Merriam-Webster's definition is enough for me, and precisely how I meant it.

2 : a stupid, vulgar, or insensitive person : clod, lout

Yes, that's number 2. TWO.
It actually goes like this:

1 often offensive : one afflicted with cretinism*
2 : a stupid, vulgar, or insensitive person : clod, lout

*Cretinism: a usually congenital abnormal condition marked by physical stunting and mental retardation and caused by severe hypothyroidism - your dictionary

Are you trying to mock people with disabilities? Again?

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People with disabilities are great. People forget how much they've contributed to the richness of vocabulary in languages worldwide.

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Originally posted by Palynka
Nope. We've been there before.
And you lost!

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YAY!

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
And you lost!
I see. Can you explain why I lost or are you going to go all Granny on me?

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explain "Nope. ..."

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Originally posted by Hand of Hecate
with this miscreant? If they'd followed my protocol of surgical penis/testical removal after his first rape conviction, he probably wouldn't have been storing 6 murdered women in his house.

[quote](CNN) -- Six women found dead at a Cleveland, Ohio, home appeared to have been strangled, and their decomposing bodies could have been lying there for " ...[text shortened]...
You need to re-evaluate your stance on the punishment of violent crime.
Body count with this scum bag is up to 11. Is 11 enough to justify disposing of this human refuse? Do we need more? 25 maybe?

Can you imagine the horror of being raped and strangled? Can you imagine the stench and vileness he lived in for years? He was in prison for 15 years for sexual assault. Released though, served his time... good idea.

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