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13 Dec 16
FMF to sonhouse: I am saying someone has apparently fed you a doctored version of the message. So you are being manipulated it would seem.sonhouse was quoting a version with different words in it. If he didn't change the words himself, then someone was manipulating him. How else would you explain it?
Originally posted by Suzianne
Here is a prime example of the "gaslighting" you engage in with people on a regular basis.
16 Dec 16
Originally posted by SuzianneNo, in this case it was three:
Are you guided by only one reason for doing things?
[1] there was no onus on me to keep such a laughably nasty message secret
[2] there were several other regular posters who might be interested in seeing your true colours as demonstrated in your abuse of the web site's message facility
[3] it's probably put a stop to any further similar abuse by you or by like minded posters
Originally posted by FMFDid you really actually ignore 98% of my PM to focus on one sentence so that you could begin this narcissistic tirade and finger-pointing?
Well the web site does say that the message facility should not be used for abusive or threatening texts and Suzianne won't be sending me any more similar messages, so all seems OK to me on the precedent front.
People should just say what they have to say in public and otherwise simply leave people they're tempted to harass alone, and certainly shouldn't be ...[text shortened]... ty to attempt to lambast them in "secret", regardless of how laughable the efforts to do so are.
Did you really miss how I really had to swallow my pride to even send you that message in the first place?
Unbelievable.
No, I certainly will not be sending you any more PMs. But not for the reason you think. It's because you have no empathy for others. It would be like putting lipstick on a pig.
16 Dec 16
Originally posted by SuzianneNo I read it all very carefully, took in what it said (which was mostly the same sort of apoplectic scorn-for-scorn's-sake you like to regale the public forums with), saw that I couldn't reply to it without an accusation of "harassment" being fabricated, realized that the message brought with it no obligation to keep what you were doing secret, and passed it on to forum regulars who might be interested. I did not ignore 98% of it at all.
Did you really actually ignore 98% of my PM to focus on one sentence so that you could begin this narcissistic tirade and finger-pointing?
16 Dec 16
Originally posted by SuzianneYou are now saying that the message in reality was an exercise in 'pride swallowing'? Well, I don't think that's true at all - I think it's arrant nonsense - so I can't be said to have missed that, no.
Did you really miss how I really had to swallow my pride to even send you that message in the first place?
Originally posted by FMFMissing the point, AGAIN.
[b]You must not know many women.
We have been somewhat trained (by men, I might add) to not show our emotions at the drop of a hat. I made that statement in the other forum to show I have strong enough concerns about that issue as well so that it, also, makes me wonder if I need to waste any more time here. Are you guided by only one reason for doing things ...[text shortened]... "pass you by", don't they?
You think this whole thing is somehow a 'men and women' thing?[/b]
16 Dec 16
Originally posted by SuzianneIf you genuinely think it is not an abuse of the web site's message facility to send a message of that nature and immediately block the recipient to make a reply impossible, while also threatening to conjure up an accusation of "harassment" if a reply of any kind were to be passed to you through a third party - if you reallyand honestly think that's the kind of thing the web site's message facility is intended for - you should perhaps lobby the owners of the site to include it in the FAQ/TOS and change the warning the message window shows before clicking on Send.
Well, guess what? Apparently you did "find a way" to reply.
16 Dec 16
Originally posted by FMFDid you even read the rest of my post?
I don't "still wonder" any such thing, as I explained. Ghost of a Duke summed it up nicely: those who endorse your behaviour and condemn mine are "...missing the point, which very simply is this; if you are going to send a PM like that to someone then you obviously lose any right to confidentiality. That's it."
Or is YOUR point the only valid one? Yeah, I thought so.
Originally posted by SuzianneWhat is the point you are trying to make about me and women then?
Missing the point, AGAIN.
As you know, I have worked for years in the fields of improving their access to social protection programs and employment, and tackling workplace discrimination, supporting women engaged in overseas labour migration who face difficult conditions while away and after they return, promoting maternal and reproductive health, and reducing violence against women.
So if you have some grown up thing to say about me, about women, and about me and women, then spit it out intelligibly rather than encasing it in yet another one of your hacked-up vituperative say-anything cry-wolf fur balls. 😉
16 Dec 16
Originally posted by SuzianneOf course I read your post. And of course the way I dealt with your behaviour was based on what I thought was a valid approach. It was my call to make. Just as it was your call to make when you abused the message facility in the way you did.
Did you even read the rest of my post? Or is YOUR point the only valid one? Yeah, I thought so.
16 Dec 16
Originally posted by FMFSonhouse is like me, and most Americans, we paraphrase on occasion to more quickly get our point across. You focus on minutia so that you have something to deride. You also start talking about 'manipulation' in order to get him to doubt himself.
sonhouse was quoting a version with different words in it. If he didn't change the words himself, then someone was manipulating him. How else would you explain it?
This is 'gaslighting', and you do it all the time. I keep telling you that you need new tricks because we've all sussed you out already, but you ignored what I said again, probably in your haste to deride someone else.