Originally posted by Boby FisherPlease tell us how you plan on logging in to that account if you knew the address.
And that could be not true anyway, because it is possible to send an email from a fake recipient.
I could send you and email claiming i m him if i know his recipient address.
tommybear claimed to be Tom Picue. Most people thought nothing of it. Even if they did, nobody said anything. Now he has claimed that he was lying. I find no reason to believe that he is lying about his lie. Logic would suggest that if he is who he claimed to be, he wouldn't put on a facade that he isn't Tom Picue. He also claims to have some 30 or so other accounts. This I don't believe. Russ would have surely caught this long before he got close to 30. FJPV/ThePo was banned for having 2 accounts, tommy would have never gotten away with 30. Be he Tom Picue or be he not. He can do a backflip and disappear up his own a$$ for all I care. With any luck, maybe he will.
Originally posted by CoconutRagnorak is not quite correct. It's only illegal to record a conversation over the phone if the other party is not made aware that you are recording it.
Prove it
Edit: Sorry ragnorak, that was rude of me. You may very well be correct, though I will try and check on it.
Of course, it could take some tact on your part to get cooperation once you've told them the conversation is being recorded. 😕
This cheat stuff has become so common place now I simply don't care.. Few nights ago my friend came around and played a game and told me when he was around another friend of ours he see him have an extra board up and asked him what he was doing.. and said playing lewis at chess.. hehe the git was cheating me and got caught.. But my friend said to me don't get pissed off with these on the net.. So really it's dosn't matter...
I played many games OTB and never lost any. So im comming to london meet up to get some real players who will give me good game maybe even beat me. BUT NO CHEATING!
Originally posted by tommybear[Event "Challenge"]
I knew it was going to happen it was only a matter of time, I have been accused of cheating by an opponent who shall remain unnamed...they are continuously messaging me saying you cheat...in the intrest of fairness I am opening this thread in the hopes that this accusation can be laid to rest. As I have not been cheating it upsets me that jealous people wo ...[text shortened]... e I ask that all of my games be looked at and actions be taken accordingly.
Thank you
Tom
[Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2005.09.23"]
[Round "?"]
[White "tommybear"]
[Black "Mary Ann"]
[Result "1-0"]
[GameId "1432918"]
1. c4 c5 2. Ng1f3 Nb8c6 3. Nb1c3 Ng8f6 4. g3 d5 5. cxd5 Nf6xd5 6. Bf1g2 Nd5xc3
7. bxc3 e5 8. O-O Bf8e7 9. d3 O-O 10. Ra1b1 Ra8b8 11. Nf3d2 Bc8e6
12. Qd1a4 Be6d7 13. f4 Qd8c7 14. Qa4e4 exf4 15. Nd2c4 fxg3 16. Bc1f4 Qc7d8
17. Bf4xg3 Bd7e6 18. Bg3xb8 Qd8xb8 19. a3 Qb8c8 20. Qe4f4 b6 21. Qf4g3 Qc8d7
22. Kg1h1 Rf8d8 23. Rf1g1 Be7f8 24. Nc4e3 Nc6e7 25. c4 g6 26. Rg1f1 Bf8g7
27. Rf1f2 Rd8e8 28. Rb1f1 f5 29. Rf1g1 Bg7d4 30. Rg1e1 Qd7a4 31. Rf2f1 Bd4c3
32. Re1c1 Qa4xa3 33. Bg2f3 Be6f7 34. Qg3c7 Bc3g7 35. Ne3g2 Qa3a4 36. Ng2f4 Qa4a2
37. Rc1d1 g5 38. Nf4h5 Bg7h8 39. Nh5g3 f4 40. Ng3e4 h6 41. h4 Qa2b2
42. Qc7xa7 Qb2e5 43. hxg5 hxg5 44. Ne4xg5 Bf7g6 45. Rf1g1 Bh8f6 46. Ng5h3 Kg8f8
47. Rd1f1 Bg6f5 48. Nh3g5 Bf5g6 49. Ng5e4 Qe5e6 50. Rg1g4 Bg6xe4 51. dxe4 Bf6e5
52. Rf1b1 Re8b8 53. Qa7a6 Ne7g6 54. Kh1h2 Be5c7 55. Qa6a7 Qe6e7 56. Kh2g2 Ng6e5
57. Rg4xf4 Kf8g7 58. Rb1g1 Ne5g6 59. Kg2f1 Rb8d8 60. e3 Kg7h7 61. Rf4f5 Rd8f8
62. Kf1e2 Rf8xf5 63. exf5 Ng6f4 64. Ke2f1 Qe7d8 65. Rg1h1 Kh7g8 66. exf4 Qd8d3
67. Bf3e2 Qd3b1 68. Kf1g2 Qb1xf5 69. Qa7xc7 Qf5e4 70. Be2f3 1-0
Shredder9UCI on a 3 gig chip
[Event "Challenge"]
[Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2005.09.23"]
[Round "?"]
[White "tommybear"]
[Black "Mary Ann"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. c4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. g3 d5 5. cxd5 Nxd5 6. Bg2
Nxc3 7. bxc3 e5 8. O-O Be7 9. d3 O-O 10. Rb1 Rb8 11. Nd2
Be6 12. Qa4 Bd7 13. f4 Qc7 14. Qe4 exf4 15. Nc4 fxg3
16. Bf4 Qd8 17. Bxg3 Be6 18. Bxb8 Qxb8 19. a3 Qc8 20. Qf4
b6 21. Qg3 Qd7 22. Kh1 Rd8 23. Rg1 Bf8 24. Ne3 Ne7 25. c4
g6 26. Rgf1 Bg7 27. Rf2 Re8 28. Rbf1 f5 29. Rg1 Bd4 30. Re1
Qa4 31. Rff1 Bc3 32. Rc1 Qxa3 33. Bf3 Bf7 34. Qc7 Bg7
35. Ng2 Qa4 36. Nf4 Qa2 37. Rcd1 g5 38. Nh5 Bh8 39. Ng3
{+0.11/10 1s} (39. Qd6 {+0.93/10 2s} g4 40. Bxg4 fxg4
41. Rxf7 Qxe2 42. Rff1 Be5 43. Qe6+ Kh8 44. Ng3 Qb2)
39... f4 40. Ne4 h6 41. h4 Qb2 42. Qxa7 Qe5 43. hxg5 hxg5
44. Nxg5 Bg6 45. Rg1 Bf6 46. Nh3 Kf8 47. Rdf1 Bf5 48. Ng5
Bg6 49. Ne4 Qe6 50. Rg4 Bxe4 51. dxe4 Be5 52. Rb1 Rb8
53. Qa6 Ng6 54. Kh2 {+1.72/10 0s} (54. Kg2 {+2.31/10 4s}
Ne7 55. Rh1 Ke8 56. Rh7 Nc6 57. Kf1 Rd8 58. Qb7 Rd1+
59. Kg2) 54... Bc7 55. Qa7 Qe7 56. Kg2 Ne5 57. Rxf4+ Kg7
58. Rg1 Ng6 59. Kf1 Rd8 60. e3 Kh7 61. Rf5 Rf8 62. Ke2 Rxf5
63. exf5 Nf4+ 64. Kf1 Qd8 65. Rh1+ Kg8 66. exf4 Qd3+
67. Be2 Qb1+ 68. Kg2 Qxf5 69. Qxc7 Qe4+ 70. Bf3 1-0
Boy whoever said that musta been lyin through their tooth!
RTh
Originally posted by zakkwylderyea but the PO /JP was on the site for 2/3 years.
Please tell us how you plan on logging in to that account if you knew the address.
tommybear claimed to be Tom Picue. Most people thought nothing of it. Even if they did, nobody said anything. Now he has claimed that he was lying. I find no reason to believe that he is lying about his lie. Logic would suggest that if he is who he claimed to be, he woul ...[text shortened]... He can do a backflip and disappear up his own a$$ for all I care. With any luck, maybe he will.
Originally posted by arrakisI'm the person who provoked tommybear after his initial plea to the members that he was accused of cheating... I did it because he fit a pattern. Other people also picked up on this pattern and No1 took the time to pursue the individual.
Your graph looks suspicious... but your case is pure and simple. Every game you've played has become a record in history, Tommy. Yeah, so even if you were cheating and didn't get caught, guess what!? 100 years from now people would be able to determine if you cheated! Cause like I said, everything anyone does here is a matter of RECORDED HISTORY.
So, I ...[text shortened]... national rating is around 1500. You want the support of RHP members? Then be willing to earn it.
So... looking at tommybear's stats, he hasn't been dumped yet. I wonder why? He broke at least one of the TOS rules, and maybe even two of them:
1) impersonating another person.
2) using a chess engine.
Will one of the mods comment on this?
- Joined
- 05 Aug 04
- Moves
- 226553
I think we should let him keep paying his $20 and ban him as soon as we find out it's him again.
I've stopped playing non-members, unless I know them personally so if all us pawn stars do that (and not just those in the clan) then he will have to register to play those that he is aiming for.
The mods must have a method of finding duplicate accounts, cos people are being banned for it.
Therefore, leave his accounts until he pays and then kick him off. Maybe after he's run up a $100 bill on his credit card (sorry dads cc) he will start to get bored.
On the subject of registering. A method of detecting timewasters needs to be put in place. There seems to be a lot of very intelliegent (if a little arguementative at times) people on here. Surely togeather we can think of a way of ensuring that those that register are not the same timewasters? Hmmm, think i'll start a thread!
Originally posted by arrakisContrary to popular belief, game mods do not have access to any personal information that could confirm or refute multiple account abuse.
1) impersonating another person. 2) using a chess engine. Will one of the mods comment on this?
Also game mods cannot remove players, only the site admins can do that.
Since he's "confessed" to both, it's not really a game mod issue at all, so I'm fairly certain that Tommybear and Russ will be in contact soon...
Originally posted by GatecrasherThanks Gatecrasher, we were left hanging...
Contrary to popular belief, game mods do not have access to any personal information that could confirm or refute multiple account abuse.
Also game mods cannot remove players, only the site admins can do that.
Since he's "confessed" to both, it's not really a game mod issue at all, so I'm fairly certain that Tommybear and Russ will be in contact soon...
Originally posted by RingtailhunterWow, 100% match.
[Event "Challenge"]
[Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2005.09.23"]
[Round "?"]
[White "tommybear"]
[Black "Mary Ann"]
[Result "1-0"]
[GameId "1432918"]
1. c4 c5 2. Ng1f3 Nb8c6 3. Nb1c3 Ng8f6 4. g3 d5 5. cxd5 Nf6xd5 6. Bf1g2 Nd5xc3
7. bxc3 e5 8. O-O Bf8e7 9. d3 O-O 10. Ra1b1 Ra8b8 11. Nf3d2 Bc8e6
12. Qd1a4 Be6d7 13 ...[text shortened]... 69. Qxc7 Qe4+ 70. Bf3 1-0
Boy whoever said that musta been lyin through their tooth!
RTh
I'd like to take time to point out to our members, that if the mod team hadn't been created then all the "tommybears" of the world would have continued to prey on the innocent people here at RHP.
Yes, it's true that the mod team had no direct action in this case... BUT, tommybear was accused of cheating and BECAUSE RHP has a group that can investigate cheating, tommy bear went public out of fear of being caught!
The results we've had with eliminating this cheater are credited to:
* the fact that RHP has set up a team to investigate cheaters.
* the continued pressure from the membership regarding this case.
* No1 maurader for taking the time to pursue the identity of the user.
Hence, Russ deserves a lot of respect for sticking it out and supporting the mod team. As do several of the members who no longer accepted the trash spouted by this person.
My final say: the mod team has a very positive effect on the good of RHP, as do the members who are now helping the team.