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09 Jul 07
Originally posted by Loose ScrewI don't know about rmacken, but from what I have heard, trevor's ban was very straight-forward, so I doubt you'd need to hear it from different sides. Apparently he was using "bad words" repeatedly and continued to do so after he had been asked not to (it seems that the system has changed to the better - previously the mods didn't give warnings).
Than I would have a 1 sited based opinion and I'm asking the opinion of the mods here'so I have 2 opinions to think about it.
Originally posted by StarrmanWhile I am not in favour of public explanations of bans, I am all for more openness about the system, and I think it's a good thing that people discuss and question the decisions of the mods or the rules of the site. That's also in the interest of the site administrators. If a lot of people feel that the system is unpredictable and unfair, the site will lose customers on the long run. The fact that this is not a democracy doesn't mean that the customers don't or shouldn't have anything to say.
The moment the mods start explaining why they banned this person, or that person people will start contesting the decisions and start to think it's up to them to decide, by some sort of democracy, who should and shouldn't get what punishments.
Originally posted by Loose ScrewMy point was that RHP mods do some amazing work.
lol - I'm not smart enough to do that! 😞
(Sorry, lack of education.)
The forums are kept interesting, conflicting and amusing without need for puritanism nor anything-goes. This is a very delicate balance, that I personally appreciate.
I don't know what trevor or rmacken did, but if they feel they're in the right then they can send feedback. Those two are not exactly saints (neither am I, this is not an attack) so I'm guessing that when you play so near the line eventually you're going to step over it. If they don't see it or turn a blind eye, great, but if they do and you get banned, that's just the way it goes.
Originally posted by NordlysI like that the system is relatively discretionary (not arbitrary, note) and not bound to strict rigid rules. It allows for a relative free flowing forum, in my opinion.
While I am not in favour of public explanations of bans, I am all for more openness about the system, and I think it's a good thing that people discuss and question the decisions of the mods or the rules of the site. That's also in the interest of the site administrators. If a lot of people feel that the system is unpredictable and unfair, the site will lose ...[text shortened]... is not a democracy doesn't mean that the customers don't or shouldn't have anything to say.
The system may be also unfair even with rigid rules. But there's always the possibility of sending feedback. The mods also have no personal interest in losing costumers for the site.
Originally posted by PalynkaI agree.
My point was that RHP mods do some amazing work.
The forums are kept interesting, conflicting and amusing without need for puritanism nor anything-goes. This is a very delicate balance, that I personally appreciate.
I don't know what trevor or rmacken did, but if they feel they're in the right then they can send feedback. Those two are not exactly sain ...[text shortened]... r turn a blind eye, great, but if they do and you get banned, that's just the way it goes.
Mwah as long as one avoids certain subjects. Sex is a no no.
Probably not knowing when to stop as far as I know them.
That would be the first forum ban for me then, but on what grounds?
Asking a bit cynicle for the reason why 2 of my Clanmates are banned for??
Originally posted by Loose ScrewOk, maybe I was wrong about your intentions. It's just that Red Night's crusade (ego-trip, more likely) started in a similar way.
I agree.
Mwah as long as one avoids certain subjects. Sex is a no no.
Probably not knowing when to stop as far as I know them.
That would be the first forum ban for me then, but on what grounds?
Asking a bit cynicle for the reason why 2 of my Clanmates are banned for??
Originally posted by PalynkaI didn't even know the site had costumers! Do they make the costumes for the drag mods? 😛
I like that the system is relatively discretionary (not arbitrary, note) and not bound to strict rigid rules. It allows for a relative free flowing forum, in my opinion.
The system may be also unfair even with rigid rules. But there's always the possibility of sending feedback. The mods also have no personal interest in losing costumers for the site.
I never said the mods had a personal interest in losing customers (or costumers, as the case may be). I also know it's a difficult job, I have been there myself. I am sure the mods are doing their best, even though their decisions sometimes seem quite bizarre. But I really don't see why any of this should mean that we shouldn't discuss the system. It rather sounds like good reasons why it should be discussed.
Originally posted by NordlysThe system can be discussed without discussing particular cases.
I didn't even know the site had costumers! Do they make the costumes for the drag mods? 😛
I never said the mods had a personal interest in losing customers (or costumers, as the case may be). I also know it's a difficult job, I have been there myself. I am sure the mods are doing their best, even though their decisions sometimes seem quite bizarre 't discuss the system. It rather sounds like good reasons why it should be discussed.
The discretionary part can and should be bounded, but if we discuss about the rights and wrongs of particular decisions then very little room is left for discretionary modding.
PS: Nazi.
Edit 😛
Originally posted by PalynkaI just would like to see some a more open relationship in mathers of forum bans, that's all.
Ok, maybe I was wrong about your intentions. It's just that Red Night's crusade (ego-trip, more likely) started in a similar way.
say something like this:
Loose Screw got a 3 day forum ban for using faul language.
I agree that you can get some arguements about the bounderies (what is faul language?) but it would make things more clear to understand.