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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI notice with interest that before your latest new "trolls" thread was deleted that you received considerable detracting comments about it, even from some of the most "civil" posters here. I wonder if you took any insight from that. I doubt it.
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Originally posted by FMFYou'll be speaking for yourself there, FMF.
Actually, I find these long lists of smug and rather artless definitions to be dreary and repetitive, not least because their very premise is to dismiss and smear almost any or every bit of online activity one does not approve of as "trolling".
It's the antithesis of 'treat others as you'd have them treat you'. It's a charter for calling everyone you don't l ...[text shortened]... eatedly bang on target and, at the very least, not misanthropic and inflexible to its very core.
You may find the lists "dreary and repetitive". Some may even agree with you. But not everyone by a long chalk. Not at all.
The General Forum is not the place it was. Once upon a time it might have seemed good sport for a few to have a go at Grampy Bobby. Those of us who have recently arrived en masse from elsewhere have noticed this trend to make an Aunt Sally out of one of the nicest, kindest and most unfailingly courteous participants here.
Seems jolly unfair, to us.
Originally posted by FMFGo on, tell us another.
I can't claim I've read them all. I've read enough though to know that your purpose in copying pasting them ~ and then refusing to discuss them yourself ~ is some kind of dull passive aggressive endeavour where you can't be bothered to write your own words or offer your own original insights. You should engage people. Take the risk of writing more material of yo ...[text shortened]... top hiding behind quotations and copy pastes of what other people said. You sell yourself short.
Originally posted by StartreaderI welcome your personal criticism of my posting. I think open, honest robustness is the life blood of a vibrant forum. I believe that we should treat others as we would wish to be treated ourselves. And it is in that spirit that I accept you expressing your critical point of view. 😉
The General Forum is not the place it was. Once upon a time it might have seemed good sport for a few to have a go at Grampy Bobby. Those of us who have recently arrived en masse from elsewhere have noticed this trend to make an Aunt Sally out of one of the nicest, kindest and most unfailingly courteous participants here.
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Originally posted by FMFJolly good.
I welcome your personal criticism of my posting. I think open, honest robustness is the life blood of a vibrant forum. I believe that we should treat others as we would wish to be treated ourselves. And it is in that spirit that I accept you expressing your critical point of view. 😉
Originally posted by divegeesteryes for 'us', the clans forum members who arrived here to find you hounding quite possibly for months on end and from forum to forum 'the nicest, kindest and most unfailingly courteous participants here.'
Have you been elected spokesperson for "us"?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieAre you pretending you weren't posting in here before the clans lot arrived?
yes for 'us', the clans forum members who arrived here to find you hounding quite possibly for months on end and from forum to forum 'the nicest, kindest and most unfailingly courteous participants here.'
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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby"100+ Internet Troll Types & Troll Resources"
"100+ Internet Troll Types & Troll Resources"
Swearer: “If anyone dares to disagree with them, this troll will reply IN CAPS AND WITH LOTS OF SWEARING *@!&. They will also tell you how ugly you and your mum are.” Emily Turner, (2013)
Tactical Trolls: “This is where the troller takes the game more seriously, creates a credible persona t ...[text shortened]... her argument.” [The Band Back Together Project)]" (to be continued) https://www.ipredator.co/troll/
Troll: “Driven by ‘Chaos’ forces. A Troll takes part in trolling to entertain others, bringing some fun and mischief to an online community. (Crocels Trolling Academy)
Twister: “They take everything you say out of context, and use it to make you sound like a douche. The tabloid journalists of the trolling world.” Robin Edds (2013)
Vengeful Troll: “The minute you anger the Vengeful Troll, he or she posts your personal information everywhere.” (The Band Back Together Project)
Vulgar Troll: “These, the crudest of all trolls, make no attempt to hide their species. Often, they make racist comments, or they may post porn and other spam. Vulgars usually confine their comments merely to primitive, profane, off-topic observations. When you log into the Really Profound Serious Philosophical Discussions board and see the post, “I smell my farts,” you’ve spotted the Vulgar Troll. Other species of troll sometimes revert to this form when cornered.” (2006 Ubuntu Forums , Trolls)
White Knight: “If the White Knight thinks someone hurts someone’s feelings, he’ll put on his shiny armor and joust for honor and goodness … even if the “attacked” person tells him to shut up.” Tamar Love Grande (2010)
Wizard: “Driven by ‘Creative’ forces. A Wizard does trolling through making up and sharing content that has humorous effect.” (Crocels Trolling Academy)
YouTube Commenter: “Are you having a great day? Well, we’ve got the solution for you. YouTube.com is the web’s leading video sharing site, and has become a hugely popular search engine. Comments on the videos are those of an open forum, with very little moderation (especially in the pre-YouTube-by-Google days), and are generally a web junkie’s daily reminder that everyone on the Internet (so, pretty much everyone in the world) is grossly ignorant, contributing to global idiocy in scads, and generally sucks really, really hard.” (Criminal Justice Degree Guide)
Deceptive or “Classic” Troll: “More sophisticated but often easily identified and exposed, the Classic Troll gratifies his ego by pretending to be someone or something he or she is not. Classics make up elaborate stories about themselves, sometimes weaving some amounts of truth into their lies. As a web of lies is difficult to build with consistency, however, Classics are often “outed” by other forumites.” (2006 Ubuntu Forums , Trolls)
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“Most writers have a fear of trolls. It is embedded deep within the collective subconscious to fear these nasty creatures of spite and hate. But, I hope, with some proper preparation, you can resume zipping down the digital highway unafraid…though I do advise you to stop at a later point to hose the trolls out of your grill.” Kristen Lamb (2011)
Erin Buckels of the University of Manitoba and two colleagues, sought to directly investigate whether people who engage in trolling are characterized by personality traits that fall in the so-called Dark Tetrad: Machiavellianism (willingness to manipulate and deceive others), Narcissism (egotism and self-obsession), Psychopathy (the lack of remorse and empathy), and Sadism (pleasure in the suffering of others)." https://www.ipredator.co/troll/