“Trolls have existed on this planet for as long as humans. This is what I was told and what I translated to Tub. The first mention of them in recorded history is from ninth-century Norway, when the nefarious creatures began showing up in song, verse, and bedtime stories to keep misbehaving children in line. According to Norse folklore, trolls are one of the Dark Beings, the purest embodiments of evil, and they scurried from between the toes of Ymir, the mythic six-headed Frost Giant whose murdered body became the universe in which we live; his bones became the mountains, his teeth boulders, and so forth.” ―Guillermo del Toro, Trollhunters
The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner
From my mother's sleep I fell into the State,
And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.
Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life,
I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.
When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose.
By Randall Jarrell
"A ball turret was a Plexiglas sphere set into the belly of a B-17 or B-24, and inhabited by two .50 caliber machine-guns and one man, a short small man. When this gunner tracked with his machine guns a fighter attacking his bomber from below, he revolved with the turret; hunched upside-down in his little sphere, he looked like the foetus in the womb. The fighters which attacked him were armed with cannon firing explosive shells. The hose was a steam hose." -- Jarrell's note. "The poem was published in 1945. Why is that relevant to its meaning? Go to index of poems, etc". http://unix.cc.wmich.edu/~cooneys/poems/jarrell.turret.html
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Note: In 1945, well before the advent of the internet, the 'Ball Turret Gunner Troll' was apparently identified before it received a Lifetime Ban..
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyInternet trolls, eh? I suppose contemplating the ultimate sacrifice of world war two air crew as they fought fascism will help us to appreciate you better ["hunched upside-down in (your) little sphere"] and better understand what you're up against here on this General Forum ["cannon firing explosive shells"]. 😉
[b]The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner
From my mother's sleep I fell into the State,
And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.
Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life,
I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.
When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose.
By Randall Jarrell
"A ball turre ...[text shortened]... et, the 'Ball Turret Gunner Troll' was apparently identified before it received a Lifetime Ban..[/b]
Originally posted by FMFIn context, which one "died" in 1945? The 'Ball Turret Gunner Troll' or a member of Red Hot Pawn which became a reality on February 21, 2001?
Internet trolls, eh? I suppose contemplating the ultimate sacrifice of world war two air crew as they fought fascism will help us to appreciate you better ["hunched upside-down in (your) little sphere"] and better understand what you're up against here on this General Forum ["cannon firing explosive shells"]. 😉