Originally posted by pcaspianI wanted to thank you for the time you've spent trying to turn a decent thread into a personal attack. It means a lot to me to know that there are people out there who will take the time to insult and degrade others when they try to help fellow human beings. It's obvious that deathbypawn is struggling here and needs constructive words. Throwing your dislike of kirksey into the fold does nothing to help or better the situation. Spirituality, sexuality and religion go together whether you can believe this or not.
Originally posted by kirksey957
[b]Where did you get that though? Is there some place in the Bible where God says that?
LOL. Since when have Biblical scripts any vague correlation with what you preach ?
Thanks for the laugh!
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Originally posted by Nyxie
I wanted to thank you for the time you've spent trying to turn a decent thread into a personal attack.
Ok, now that IS funny. How you long you been on the forums ?
It means a lot to me to know that there are people out there who will take the time to insult and degrade others when they try to help fellow human beings.
Thats me.
It's obvious that deathbypawn is struggling here and needs constructive words. Throwing your dislike of kirksey into the fold does nothing to help or better the situation. Spirituality, sexuality and religion go together whether you can believe this or not.
Actually yes I do. As would anyone that read the Bible. Pretending to represent a particular view , yet then directly contradicting the tennants of that view deserves addressing. Ofcourse should Deathbypawn choose to follow Kirk's advice, it is his choice. It is however my responsibility to inform Deathbypawn that Kirk is not a preacher, nor does he even know the Bible. Thus should a Christian seek advice from him with the belief that he is indeed a preacher ofcourse I will point it out.
All the best
Originally posted by bbarr
You're just a bundle of pent up sexual aggression, pmyshkin! Your fascination with arses indicates your apparent homophobia may actually be projection. Not that there's anything wrong with that. 😀
Cheers!
LOL. In all seriousness though, have a look at some pics of the rear end of a buffalo's arse (lol... and I only know cause I've been on safari and seen one take a dump infront of the jeep), but It's actualy quite uncanny 😉 Sorta like in Ace Ventura 2 when he come's out of the hole to the back of the Rhino, except in this case it's a buffalo. Hehe, that 'cracks' me up!
Originally posted by pcaspian(*snicker snicker*)
Ofcourse should Deathbypawn choose to follow Kirk's advice, it is his choice. It is however my responsibility to inform Deathbypawn that Kirk is not a preacher, nor does he even know the Bible. Thus should a Christian seek advice from him with the belief that he is indeed a preacher ofcourse I will point it out.
All the best
My dad is a minister. He works for Hospice. He makes a living preaching. 😀
true it does not give me an excuse to live life the way I want to live it formicating with as many women as possible. Believe me I have done all that, it does not give me an excuse to go out an get wasted every chance I get and I have done that as well.
Why do you need an excuse? If you want to do it, do it. Now that you don't want to, stop.
Shavixmir, that is an awesome set of suggestions.
OK, class, let's get back to learning after our little disruption in class today.
I was thinking today that we often delve into ideas and perhaps we could talk about the "real world of real people." I'm gonna tell you someone I've been admiring as of late. In a world of Paris Hilton and Britney Spears and all the shallowness they represent (at least to chess players),I thought about Dana Reeves, the wife of Christorpher Reeves. I really admire the commitment this woman had in caring for him and sticking by him. She strikes me as a very mature woman who has a solid character.
So who do you hold out as positive role models in the area of relationships? Tell me why.
Originally posted by pcaspianpcaspian,
LOL. Since when have Biblical scripts any vague correlation with what you preach ?
Thanks for the laugh!
I want to believe that, somehow, you feel this confrontation will be a benefit to kirksey957, and to readers of this thread. If you object to kirksey957's teachings (I myself often do), then please remember that there are appropriate places, times, and especially manners in which to object. There are also inappropriate manners, times, and places in which to object. I do not believe your approach, at this time, in this place, and in this manner, is beneficial to you, to him, to the readers of this thread, or to God Himself.
I want to believe you have posted this with the good intention of serving the Lord, but even if that was your intention, I cannot see how this serves Him. Please consider being polite, for His sake. And remember to love even those you dislike.
your brother,
Larry
My wife. When she and I married, I was a lying, short-tempered, selfish, lazy, manipulative drug addict. I was a terrible husband. It makes no sense, from a worldly point-of-view, that she stayed with me. But she stuck to her word to love, honor, and cherish in good times and in bad. While I broke our marriage vows every day by caring only about myself, she lived patience, forgiveness, and uncondi ...[text shortened]... t I was different. I was a new man, in large part because of what I had learned from Deb about love.Originally posted by kirksey957
OK, class, let's get back to learning after our little disruption in class today.
Sorry for the further disruption.
So who do you hold out as positive role models in the area of relationships? Tell me why.
My wife. When she and I married, I was a lying, short-tempered, selfish, lazy, manipulative drug addict. I was a terrible husband. It makes no sense, from a worldly point-of-view, that she stayed with me. But she stuck to her word to love, honor, and cherish in good times and in bad. While I broke our marriage vows every day by caring only about myself, she lived patience, forgiveness, and unconditional love. And she kept her committment to me.
As I slowly began to realize what a terrible husband, what a terrible person I was, I also began to see, in Deborah, just what true love is. When I became a Christian, and learned that God loves me unconditionally, I would have had a lot of trouble believing anyone could love like that, if I hadn't seen Deb do it with my own eyes.
I'm still not a good husband, but by God's grace I get better and better. If you ask Deb now, she'll tell you I'm a blessing. Only God could have made a blessing out of me.
A few years after our marriage, we renewed our wedding vows. For me, it was not so much a renewal of old vows as a new wedding. The vows were the same, Deborah was the same, but I was different. I was a new man, in large part because of what I had learned from Deb about love.
Originally posted by huntingbearHuntingbear, you are a lucky man blesssed with a wonderful wife. This should be an inspiration to all. There is hope for everyone out there, please don't give up.
Originally posted by kirksey957
[b]OK, class, let's get back to learning after our little disruption in class today.
Sorry for the further disruption.
So who do you hold out as positive role models in the area of relationships? Tell me why.
My wife. When she and I married, I was a lying, short-tempered, selfish, lazy, manipu ...[text shortened]... was different. I was a new man, in large part because of what I had learned from Deb about love.[/b]
Nyxie
Originally posted by kirksey957I'm going to have to mention Nancy Reagan here. Ronald Reagan was a powerful and successful man, and a lot of that was owed to the support of a wonderful wife. This did'nt fully become apparent till thier late years together though. Nancy Reagan watched her husband slowly slip away, something that I could never wish upon anyone. But through this she remained steadfast upholding his dignity and his image before the world. Never allowing the press to fully see what had really happened to one of the world's most powerful men. Ronald Reagan could have died shamed in front of the world by his condition but Nancy never allowed that to happen. Her strentgh through all of it mantaining his work and namesake. Even her openess in publishing his love letters to her collected over the years, showed us what his life had truly been and celebrated it to the end. Never forgetting how much they really loved each other.
OK, class, let's get back to learning after our little disruption in class today.
I was thinking today that we often delve into ideas and perhaps we could talk about the "real world of real people." I'm gonna tell you someone I've been admiring as of late. In a world of Paris Hilton and Britney Spears and all the shallowness they represent (at l ...[text shortened]... r.
So who do you hold out as positive role models in the area of relationships? Tell me why.
Thank you Nancy
Nyxie
ps : this post has nothing to do with political views
Originally posted by huntingbearLarry, I am deeply moved by your post. I'm glad this particular thread provided you an avenue to share who you are on a deep level and also affirm your relationship to your wife. Many couples prior to marriage are in total bliss and do not realize how much work it is. I recently heard a new and I think more accurate way of saying vows in marriage: "Do you take on this shadow for awefully (instead of lawfully) wedded risk (instead of bliss)." Now that's the truth. More on this later.
Originally posted by kirksey957
[b]OK, class, let's get back to learning after our little disruption in class today.
Sorry for the further disruption.
So who do you hold out as positive role models in the area of relationships? Tell me why.
My wife. When she and I married, I was a lying, short-tempered, selfish, lazy, manipu ...[text shortened]... was different. I was a new man, in large part because of what I had learned from Deb about love.[/b]
If my wife had been concerned only about what her 'soul mate' could do for her, we'd never have made it.
Instead of looking for the 'right person,' one should focus on being the right person: caring, loving, understanding.
And it is hard work. Your perfect match isn't the one who will make life all peaches and cream. Your perfect match is the one with whom and for whom you were made to work.
The peaches and cream are a bonus 😉
Originally posted by kirksey957Hey Doc, I have a question:
Several have suggested that the time is right for another Ivory Tower thread to address issues related to relationships, dating, and the like. There are many young people on the site that have all kinds of mush put in their brains and they need some solid, realistic advice based on truth and experience. All are welcome to have input as this is about com ...[text shortened]... be a safe place to explore these issues and we, or at least I, will give you straight up advice.
How do I tell this guy I know that his girlfriend is a two-bit slag who's slept with no less than 30 guys before her 25th birthday? The guy's not really my friend and I'm not really looking out for him, I just don't like the girl and would like this unknowing fool to know the real deal before he finds himself covered in warts or squeezing green stuff out of his knob. But maybe they'll fall in love and he'll change her skaggy ways. Are my motives good or bad? What should I do?
Originally posted by darvlayLots of people have opinions about their friends and who they date, fall in love with , and marry. There is nothing in it for you to tell him how you feel about her. Everybody has a right to their own mistakes and who am I to deprive one of learning from their mistakes? So what I would do is leave it alone.
Hey Doc, I have a question:
How do I tell this guy I know that his girlfriend is a two-bit slag who's slept with no less than 30 guys before her 25th birthday? The guy's not really my friend and I'm not really looking out for him, I just don't like the girl and would like this unknowing fool to know the real deal before he finds himself covered in wa ...[text shortened]... fall in love and he'll change her skaggy ways. Are my motives good or bad? What should I do?
What do some of the rest of you think?
Originally posted by kirksey957Without knowing the participants, it's a tough call. She *could* have been sowing her wild oats and has every intention of "settling down" but I doubt it. Leopard changing spots and all that eh?
Lots of people have opinions about their friends and who they date, fall in love with , and marry. There is nothing in it for you to tell him how you feel about her. Everybody has a right to their own mistakes and who am I to deprive one of learning from their mistakes? So what I would do is leave it alone.
What do some of the rest of you think?