Parents Are The Root Of All Evil

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Tim, environment has always been and still is a non-issue. Positive volition at the point of god consciousness obligates the omniscience and omnipotence of God to provide salvation information. Christian upbringing is no guarantee of heaven. It's individual. You're still hung up with a limited horizontal human viewpoint. Country of birth is also a red h ...[text shortened]... alone. Some say 'yes' and get it right. Others for their own good reasons choose 'no'.

you are either a Calvinist (which I find laughable), or you are supremely ignorant of the social sciences

Originally posted by duecer
you are either a Calvinist (which I find laughable), or you are supremely ignorant of the social sciences

Never hid behind simplistic labels. As for TULIP, I'll buy letters 1, 2 and 5. Limited contradicts provision

of atonement for all. Irresistible denies the reality of volition to say no. Place of birth is inconsequential.

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Both your mind and ears are temporarily closed, Tim, but it's your prerogative

to reject any and all new information. I thank you for giving it a fair hearing.

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GB even makes baby Jesus :'(

Originally posted by Starrman
GB even makes baby Jesus :'(

Rec'd.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Rec'd.

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Sometimes with both eyes open and at other times wide shut... so, yes, in that sense.


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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Never hid behind simplistic labels. As for TULIP, I'll buy letters 1, 2 and 5. Limited contradicts provision

of atonement for all. Irresistible denies the reality of volition to say no. Place of birth is inconsequential.

everything you said after "labels" is jibberish, not just to my mediocre reading ability, but utter and true jibber jabber, you may have thought you said something interesting and profound, but they were all incomplete sentances with words completely unrelated to one another. Its posts like these that make people attack you as a psuedo-intellectual.

If you have something to say, say it. No one is impressed with a 69cent vocabulary, they will however appreciate an intelligable response.


This is not meant as an attack, but as a reasonable request

Originally posted by duecer
everything you said after "labels" is jibberish, not just to my mediocre reading ability, but utter and true jibber jabber, you may have thought you said something interesting and profound, but they were all incomplete sentances with words completely unrelated to one another. Its posts like these that make people attack you as a psuedo-intellectual.

If yo ...[text shortened]... ate an intelligable response.


This is not meant as an attack, but as a reasonable request

Let's roll the tape back, Pastor Duecer. Since you introduced "Calvinism" I readily assumed you were familiar with the T.U.L.I.P. acronym and that there was no practical need for an overly comprehensive review of its tenets (which would serve only to insult your intelligence). So simply offered a few brief comments on which of the five I buy using common theological words in context, expecting an objective reply.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Let's roll the tape back, Pastor Duecer. Since you introduced "Calvinism" I readily assumed you were familiar with the T.U.L.I.P. acronym and that there was no practical need for an overly comprehensive review of its tenets (which would serve only to insult your intelligence). So simply offered a few brief comments on which of the five I buy using common theological words in context, expecting an objective reply.

Even if Dooker should have been aware of the acronym, is it reasonable to expect that everyone else is aware of it?

Even after reading up on Calvanism, it was not immediately obvious that the TULIP acronym came from the 5 tenents of Calvanism. I was left confused as well.

You spend a good bit of time breathing every day, would it be reasonable for me to assume that you know the physical composition and propeties of air? If the composition of air suddenly became integral to our discussion, I would not make the assumption even though, to me, it would seem reasonable that everyone knows the composition of air.

Dooker, the shame, the shame.

Originally posted by Starrman
He's black and bald, all black bald guys are cool.

Does he look like a bitch?















Sorry, someone had to say it.

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You know, I really, really hate to intrude into this orgy of pride (one of the seven deadly sins, don'tcha know) and prejudice, but I simply must point out that Christianity and Islam worship the same God. The same God as the Jews. The God of Abraham.