So, it turns out that the Florida Shooter was Gay

Originally posted by FMF
I don't think homosexuality is immoral. Aside from your belief/claim that you have received some kind of instructions from a supernatural being pertaining to homosexuals, you haven't offered any argument whatsoever as to why anyone should think homosexuality is immoral.

".., you haven't offered any argument whatsoever as to why anyone should think homosexuality is immoral."

Finally! Now we're getting somewhere. The question then arises as to whether homosexuality is right or wrong, good or evil, moral or immoral.

Everyone wants proof. Everyone wants evidence. Aside from the evidence that lies right before our eyes, which can be interpreted in any way by anyone, there's only one way to tell whether homosexuality is immoral or not.

And since the knowledge of the truth concerning morality is held in the minds of individuals, and we can't base or understanding of truth on every persons point of view of which there's no end, there can be only one absolute authority.

I'll leave it there for now.

Originally posted by josephw
[b]".., you haven't offered any argument whatsoever as to why anyone should think homosexuality is immoral."

Finally! Now we're getting somewhere. The question then arises as to whether homosexuality is right or wrong, good or evil, moral or immoral.

Everyone wants proof. Everyone wants evidence. Aside from the evidence that lies right before our e ...[text shortened]... which there's no end, there can be only one absolute authority.

I'll leave it there for now.[/b]

there can be only one absolute authority - JoDo

Finally someone agrees that Robbie is da man! 😀

Originally posted by FMF
Your condemnations of homosexuals were on page 7. You later compared them to murderers. After that, you suggested that a law criminalizing homosexuality would be a just law that would protect innocent people. That is judging and condemning people in about as "real" a sense as one can on a message board.

There you go again.

Originally posted by josephw
The question then arises as to whether homosexuality is right or wrong, good or evil, moral or immoral.

Do you have any argument that homosexuality is immoral or wrong or evil aside from one that, for all intents and purposes, simply says 'a supernatural being said so'?

Originally posted by josephw
There you go again.

"There you go again" is a dodge. There is what you said on page 7. There is your comparison to murderers. There is your suggestion that criminalizing homosexuality would be a "just". Are you retracting or standing by these things?

Originally posted by FMF
That's why I said "the likes of Omar Mateen". I wonder if you have ever reflected on how much your ideas and demeanour might give comfort and a sense of vindication to the likes of Omar Mateen.

I, too, wonder.
I wonder if you ever reflect on the fact that you're such a trolling douche bag whose only trick is an interrogation styled percussion of bland drivel.
Would you say you reflect on that a little?
A lot?
Or only occasionally?
Does that fact bother you, or have you come to grips with it, adopting a contented resignation on your inability to be anything else?

I wonder.

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
I, too, wonder.
I wonder if you ever reflect on the fact that you're such a trolling douche bag whose only trick is an interrogation styled percussion of bland drivel.
Would you say you reflect on that a little?
A lot?
Or only occasionally?
Does that fact bother you, or have you come to grips with it, adopting a contented resignation on your inability to be anything else?

I wonder.

FMF is kinda like a mosquito, a pestilent bothersome fellow with one mode of attack.

Originally posted by FMF
Do you have any argument that homosexuality is immoral or wrong or evil aside from one that, for all intents and purposes, simply says 'a supernatural being said so'?

If God says so wouldn't that be good enough for you?

Otherwise, how else can you know the difference between right and wrong? How do you determine what is morally acceptable or not? Is it a feeling? Everyone has feelings. Is it by some cognitive sense of knowing? Everyone has an opinion. Is it by experience? Do your senses tell you what is good or evil?

Everyone has opinions and beliefs. If all opinions and beliefs are derived at by the experience of the senses, then I think the evidence is clear. One can only conclude, based on that scenario, that everybody is in a world of trouble as is evidentially and abundantly clear.

After all, you said what you think about it. How do you know you're right? And Rusty over there thinks it's all good too. But the evidence says otherwise.

Originally posted by josephw
If God says so wouldn't that be good enough for you?

I have no reason to believe that "God says so".

Originally posted by josephw
Otherwise, how else can you know the difference between right and wrong? How do you determine what is morally acceptable or not? Is it a feeling? Everyone has feelings. Is it by some cognitive sense of knowing? Everyone has an opinion. Is it by experience? Do your senses tell you what is good or evil?

I already answered this pages ago.

Originally posted by josephw
After all, you said what you think about it. How do you know you're right? And Rusty over there thinks it's all good too. But the evidence says otherwise.

You have presented no "evidence" that homosexuality is morally wrong.

Originally posted by FMF
"There you go again" is a dodge. There is what you said on page 7. There is your comparison to murderers. There is your suggestion that criminalizing homosexuality would be a "just". Are you retracting or standing by these things?

You're the one that's dodging. You're in denial of the fact that you fixate, and are incapable of speaking to the topic, and have an inordinate preoccupation with finding some gnat's ass to stretch over a telephone pole. 😉

Originally posted by josephw
Everyone has opinions and beliefs. If all opinions and beliefs are derived at by the experience of the senses, then I think the evidence is clear. One can only conclude, based on that scenario, that everybody is in a world of trouble as is evidentially and abundantly clear.

Do you think your opinions and beliefs (and those of people like you) should be the basis of law or laws criminalizing homosexuality?

Originally posted by josephw
You're the one that's dodging. You're in denial of the fact that you fixate, and are incapable of speaking to the topic, and have an inordinate preoccupation with finding some gnat's ass to stretch over a telephone pole. 😉

How am I ignoring the topic? I have been tackling it head on throughout this thread. I have been plain spoken about my views and arguments. And I have confronted you about yours. How can I possibly be described as "dodging" the topic?

Originally posted by FMF
You have presented no "evidence" that homosexuality is morally wrong.

None that appears to your senses.

But you are in denial of the evidence that clearly points to the health risks of a deviant sexual lifestyle. Not to mention the emotional and psychological trauma associated with it. As well as the crime statistics too.