23 Oct 07
Originally posted by Gary ThomasHave you learned to read time controls yet? Hope so.
Dear Sir:
I thank you for the obvious time you've taken with your polite answer. As you probably have seen I posted once before, a month ago, and kept the identity to myself. When I checked to see if it were possible this player might be having problems he didn't answer or indeed didn't even open my messages. I am suggesting he should be punished, NOT ...[text shortened]... getting a draw goes! An OLD joke goes: "And maybe the horse will learn to sing!!!"😀
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23 Oct 07
Originally posted by GoatboysrevengeDear Goatboysrevenge,
I'd like to make a point about how this behaviour can affect your ratings.
Say several of your opponents are up in one game but down in the other, they play to finish all their favourably positioned games, but drag out the games where you are winning.
Losing a few games in quick(ish) succession can impact your ratings quite severely (see my Him ...[text shortened]... that point, now I'll go back under my stone...
(Text shortened) ... it so I'm not moaning!
You have it perfectly correct how this affects scoring. If more people such as think this is wrong, moan, it might get changed! Also I think we are in agreement on this particular type of behavior but I don't think you should get back "stoned" as it's probably illegal, --or immoral, -- or something🙄 But thanks😀
23 Oct 07
Originally posted by Gary Thomasit's not fair play, but then again he's not breaking the rules... i don't really know what you would like rhp to do about this kind of play... ban him? seems a little harsh considering he is moving within the time limits set up or accepted by you.... if it really bothers you, i would just play one day games, no timebank...
I know this is probably just going to get me yelled at but, dammit, SOMETHING should be done about players who deliberately punish other players who happen to be beating them soundly! If you simply Look at a player named Rookhunter you will see he has a PATTERN of doing this! So far he has timed out on:
Bigdave2007
Knightstokill
Cordaire2
Legionar ...[text shortened]... ry Thomas
PS: I may be a crybaby but I don't hide behind a pseudonym!Game 4105913
i'm just a little lost by it all, whether he moves now or in a weeks time the points will still be yours eventually.... i wouldnt take it all too seriously if i were you, we're never going to be grandmasters, it's just a bit of fun to pass the time
23 Oct 07
Originally posted by Gary ThomasIf enough people complain the sky is blue... it will still remain blue.
Dear Goatboysrevenge,
You have it perfectly correct how this affects scoring. If more people such as think this is wrong, moan, it might get changed! Also I think we are in agreement on this particular type of behavior but I don't think you should get back "stoned" as it's probably illegal, --or immoral, -- or something🙄 But thanks😀
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23 Oct 07
Originally posted by GoatboysrevengeYou obviously don't understand how this "type of behaviour" affects your ratings. If a player wins 1 of a pair of games, then loses the other some time later, his opponent will experience a net gain of points.
I'd like to make a point about how this behaviour can affect your ratings.
Say several of your opponents are up in one game but down in the other, they play to finish all their favourably positioned games, but drag out the games where you are winning.
Losing a few games in quick(ish) succession can impact your ratings quite severely (see my Him ...[text shortened]... of dragging out games, but I know there isn't much to be done about it so I'm not moaning!
If I was to look at your graph, I'd take you for somebody like you are giving out about, playing fast in won games, and drawing out lost games. Unless you are claiming that every one of your opponents is out to get you, then that is the only logical explanation for your peaks and troughs. Obviously, you don't think you're doing anything wrong, but you DO think that your opponents ARE doing something wrong.
Maybe people just shouldn't take this site so seriously?
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23 Oct 07
Originally posted by Gary ThomasLearn patience young whippersnapper. Savor the game like a fine wine not cheep cool-aid. Start a new game and in a year or so you will eventually get your wins or loss. Good things come to those who wait. Why cause yourself unnecessary stress and give your opponent his thrill. I recall a clan who did just that to my clan in a challenge, but in the end patience prevailed and we won.
I know this is probably just going to get me yelled at but, dammit, SOMETHING should be done about players who deliberately punish other players who happen to be beating them soundly! If you simply Look at a player named Rookhunter you will see he has a PATTERN of doing this! So far he has timed out on:
Bigdave2007
Knightstokill
Cordaire2
Legionar ...[text shortened]... ry Thomas
PS: I may be a crybaby but I don't hide behind a pseudonym!Game 4105913
[kick sand]Or you could just resign and worry no more.[/kick sand]
&%#$#^$@!!!
23 Oct 07
Let's say I make the initial move of of forced 4-move combination which leads to a smothered mate. I message my opponent exactly what move I will make for each of his options, and all these lines lead to a forced mate. But he deliberately drags the game out for 19 days, which is possible with a 3-day time control and a 7-day timebank. I may even end up having to time him out. It seems to me that there should be some way to end that game once I demonstrate that my winning is inevitable and there's no way for him to stop it, instead of wasting my time for almost 3 weeks.
23 Oct 07
Originally posted by AttilaTheHornIn a perfect world, they would just realize the end is near and end it. The problem is, we would need a team of users to review the games to be sure mate is forced, and enforce the end to a game. That won't happen.
Let's say I make the initial move of of forced 4-move combination which leads to a smothered mate. I message my opponent exactly what move I will make for each of his options, and all these lines lead to a forced mate. But he deliberately drags the game out for 19 days, which is possible with a 3-day time control and a 7-day timebank. I may even end up ...[text shortened]... evitable and there's no way for him to stop it, instead of wasting my time for almost 3 weeks.
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23 Oct 07
Originally posted by AttilaTheHornOnce again, there really isn't an issue. Eventually, you will win the game - though there is always a possibility that you will make some sort of an error even if you don't believe that you will (as long as there are still moves to make, anything is possible).
Let's say I make the initial move of of forced 4-move combination which leads to a smothered mate. I message my opponent exactly what move I will make for each of his options, and all these lines lead to a forced mate. But he deliberately drags the game out for 19 days, which is possible with a 3-day time control and a 7-day timebank. I may even end up ...[text shortened]... evitable and there's no way for him to stop it, instead of wasting my time for almost 3 weeks.
Unless you are a non-subscriber, this shouldn't be a problem. As a subscriber, you merely have four moves left to make - it is merely a quesiton of when those moves will occur. As a subscriber, you can sign up for more games. No wrong has been done to you.
As a non-subscriber, however, you are wasting weeks of time with a game that you have already finished in your mind. You cannot end the game and you cannot add a new game until the other game finishes. Non-subscribers suffer much more than do subscribers because of such behavior.
As has been repeatedly pointed out (but I guess it should be pointed out again), when the game started, you agreed to make moves within certain time restrictions. Just because you believe that these time constraints have become frustrating does not mean that they no longer apply. They do. There is no way of circumventing this system. It will not ever change even though there are many who sympathize with you and feel your pain.
And, if you come onto the boards and point out that a player is acting in such a manner (this is incredibly common for some reason) expect to be mocked and harassed relentlessly. The player may be childish and rude for not moving as quickly as you would like but he/she is no more childish and rude than the player who publicly outs them on the boards.
*** Please allow me to also add that I have played some individuals who simply refused to move unless and until their time ran out (in fact, I currently am engaged in a few of these games as I write this response). I find these games frustrating but I also know that I agreed to the time constraints. Thus, I should not complain. Instead, I learned that I do not like games with long time out periods and avoid them.