UK election

@A-Unique-Nickname said
It's stupid, I agree, so is the American system. Any system where a party can gain more votes than another party but end with less power is daft. In America it should be easy, remove the value given to each state and simply most votes win. In the UK because there's so many different parties and nations, it's not so simple.

@divegeester said
The number of nations (4) shouldn’t be much of a problem; just give each nation a pro rata number of seats based on each population and then apply PR within each nation.

@A-Unique-Nickname said
It doesn't work. The people of Scotland, Wales and especially NI are screwed under the current system. People in NI can't even vote for the party that's going to win the overall election, on which planet is that ok?

Having a local government is fine and important but overall for the general election there needs to be a massive reform. In the end you have Labour winning something like 30% of the votes but 60% of the seats.... It's daft.

@divegeester said
I didn’t make my point clearly enough.

In dividing up PR by nation it would include every national party and of course every local party.

@A-Unique-Nickname said
So instead of 7 parties to choose from there's going to be 11/12/13? 😂

Doesn't work.

@divegeester said
Well I guess the question to you then is do you want proportional representation or not?

Even if there were 12 candidates it wouldn’t matter in a PR vote in NI for example, because let’s say there was 6 seats available, then the 6 candidates with the highest votes would win the those seats. What it would mean is there would be lot of tactical voting so polling intent would be a bigger thing than it is now.

@A-Unique-Nickname
Fair enough, then perhaps in this scenario a campaign and vote to get the three nominations for election would work?

@divegeester said
@A-Unique-Nickname
Fair enough, then perhaps in this scenario a campaign and vote to get the three nominations for election would work?

@A-Unique-Nickname said
It's not uncommon for countries to have more than one round of voting, get rid of the parties who aren't going to win and end up with the top two parties.

@divegeester said
Sounds like we are in agreement then; or does that go against your rebel perspective?

@moonbus said
It‘s pretty clear that Labour did not so much win, as the Tories lost. The Tories had overstayed their welcome. The woes the UK has suffered in the last 14 years were mounting, and Sunak‘s last-second plea that things were ‚finally turning around‘ was simply pathetic: falling wages in real terms, rising house prices, the economic fallout from Brexit, several disastrously inco ...[text shortened]... siness/uk-millionaires-loss-record/index.html

Crikey, they had 14 years to ‚turn things around.‘

@divegeester said
Who gives a rats arse if a load of super rich tax dodgers are leaving; screw them.

Freeloading isn’t confined to the lower classes.

PS: how are you Swiss doing with your non EU status?

@moonbus said
Last time there was a vote on joining the EU, the result was closely against joining. Switzerland is part of Schengen, so no routine passport checks at borders, but there are random customs checks of passenger cars at Basel (and other major crossings, but I know a few uncontrolled crossings if you want to smuggle something in), and all HGVs are inspected. Switzerland has a lo ...[text shortened]... t print money, you know. The money they lend to small-home owners comes from rich people’s deposits.

@moonbus said
The money they lend to small-home owners comes from rich people’s deposits.

@moonbus said
Last time there was a vote on joining the EU, the result was closely against joining.