Originally posted by vipiu"drawish" is not the first adjective i would think of for the benko gambit ! It's considered a good way to unbalance the game and avoid drawish positions (for example when facing weaker opposition).
what about Benko Gambit ?...I think it can transpose to Benko as well...
What do you think about Benko ? I am thinking to employ it against d4 as a back-up opening in OTB...(on the other side, as I mainly play KID I think I need something more "drawish" and "solid"...but the rest are a bit dull with too much theory...Benko loos preatty simple to me...
solid and drawish? maybe the queen's indian or queen's gambit declined, or slav defence...
Originally posted by shorbockeh, that's why I said "on the other side"...as I think KID is enough to unbalance the position, I might not need another opening in the same style(as Benko)...I would need a more solid one...but those "solid" have tons of theory(see "slav"😉 or give you all the time a bit inferior positions that I hate...
"drawish" is not the first adjective i would think of for the benko gambit ! It's considered a good way to unbalance the game and avoid drawish positions (for example when facing weaker opposition).
solid and drawish? maybe the queen's indian or queen's gambit declined, or slav defence...
I have just played a couple of games with Benko but it seems preatty cute (I have many problems against it on white side)
I play it (1. c5 against 1. d4, or the Old Benoni) almost exclusively on RHP and OTB. I've had decent results with it here:
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I've had loads of draws with it as well, which is obviously good as black. I wouldn't play it unless you can commit a lot of time to practice, because it can get out of hand pretty quickly if you're not paying attention. Also you have to be happy with playing from a closed position.
Artur Yusopov played it against me in a simul last year. Another opportunity to post the game!!
Redmike - Yusopov,A (2617) [A44]
Glasgow Simul
1.d4 c5 2.d5 e5 3.e4 d6 4.Bd3 Be7 5.Ne2 Bg5 6.f4 exf4 7.Nxf4 Nd7 [ 7...Nh6Pachman,L-Enevoldsen,J/IBM Amsterdam 1967 (11)/½-½] 8.0-0 Ne5 9.Na3 [ 9.Bb5+ Bd7 10.Ne6 fxe6 11.Qh5+ g6 12.Bxd7+ Qxd7 13.Qxg5 is a bit better for white, but not much] 9...Nh6 [ 9...a6] 10.Bb5+ Kf8 [ 10...Bd7 11.Ne6² but this must still be better than the game 11...fxe6 12.Qh5+ g6 13.Qxg5] 11.Ne6+ Bxe6 12.Bxg5 An important intermediate move - draws the queen from d6 12...Qxg5 13.dxe6 Ke7 [ 13...Rd8 14.Qd5 Qe3+] 14.Qd5! Rab8 [ 14...Qe3+ 15.Kh1 at least gets out of the pin along the 5th rank] 15.Nc4 Rhd8 16.Bd7!+- Nf3+ [ 16...Rxd7 17.exd7 Kd8 18.Qxd6 is just horrible for black - eg 18...Nc6 19.Na5!] 17.Rxf3 Qxd5 18.exd5 f6 19.Re1 Rf8 20.Ne3 f5 21.Ref1 [ 21.Ref1 g6 22.Rh3] 1-0
Originally posted by gaychessplayer1 d4 c5 2 dxc5 e6 3 Nc3 Bxc5 4 Ne4 Nf6! and if 5.Nxc5 then 5...Qa5+ with Qxc5 to follow. In my opinion position is about equal.
1 d4 c5 2 dxc5 e6 3 Nc3 Bxc5?! (better is 3... Na6!) 4 Ne4!, with the idea of either 5 Nd6+! or 5 Nxc5!.
If 5.Nd6+ than after 5...Bxd6 6.Qxd6 Qe7 black also has no problems at all.
Originally posted by KorchAfter 5 Nd6+ Bxd6 6 Qxd6 Qe7, doesn't White have a slight endgame advantage because of the two Bishop's? It seems to me that if anybody has any winning chances, it is White.
1 d4 c5 2 dxc5 e6 3 Nc3 Bxc5 4 Ne4 Nf6! and if 5.Nxc5 then 5...Qa5+ with Qxc5 to follow. In my opinion position is about equal.
If 5.Nd6+ than after 5...Bxd6 6.Qxd6 Qe7 black also has no problems at all.
Originally posted by gaychessplayerEach time when someone claims advantage on base of such common factors (in this case - 2 bishops) I would like to ask him - How would you exploit your "advantage"?
After 5 Nd6+ Bxd6 6 Qxd6 Qe7, doesn't White have a slight endgame advantage because of the two Bishop's? It seems to me that if anybody has any winning chances, it is White.
Originally posted by KorchYou raise a very important question!
Each time when someone claims advantage on base of such common factors (in this case - 2 bishops) I would like to ask him - How would you exploit your "advantage"?
I don't know if the advantage of the two B's can in fact be exploited. I was just suggesting that since virtually all masters consider a Bishop to be worth more that a knight in most positions, that unless there is something special in the position under discussion that makes that generality not apply, that White must have a sllight edge in the endgame.
Of course, the formulation of a correct strategy and a proper analysis of specific variations always takes precedence over evaluating a position merely on the basis of some general rule of thumb.
Originally posted by gaychessplayerI don't think it's a "special" position just positions with locked centres.
You raise a very important question!
I don't know if the advantage of the two B's can in fact be exploited. I was just suggesting that since virtually all masters consider a Bishop to be worth more that a knight in most positions, that unless there is something special in the position under discussion that makes that generality not apply, that W ...[text shortened]... takes precedence over evaluating a position merely on the basis of some general rule of thumb.